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Presentations include:\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eChad Gibbs, Dori Laub Fellow\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\"Survival and Witnessing at Treblinka: Toward Place-Based Definitions of Holocaust Survivorship\"\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJulie Dawson, Fortunoff/VWI Fellow\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\"The Legacy of Trauma: Examining the ‘Crisis of Life’ in Jewish Survivor Diaries of Early Post-War Romania\"\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eWendy Lower, William Rosenberg Senior Scholar\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\"'The Russians Broke our Spirit, the Germans Killed us Physically': Isaac Hauser's Testimony of the Holocaust in Ukraine\"\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJonathan Petropoulos, William Rosenberg Senior Scholar\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\"From New Haven to Nuremberg: Sidney Bruskin's Journey as a Nazi Hunter and Concentration Camp Liberator\"\u003c/p\u003e (Summary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2021-05-12 (Creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English (Primary)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn May 12, 2021 the Fortunoff Video Archive hosted their annual research symposium, featuring the work of our four fellows and senior scholars. 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Once again, conditions are such that we are forced to hold our annual research symposium online for a second year. Sorry about that, but I'm glad that all of you have joined us today. Before we begin, I think we'd like to note that while we are meeting today, there is an active conflict underway where innocent lives are being lost in Israel and Palestine. Many of us and many of you have relatives and families impacted by this conflict. The staff of the archive hopes that the violence will soon cease and we wish peace for both Palestinians and Israelis. \n\nSTEPHEN NARON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For those of you who I haven't met before, my name is Stephen Naron and I am the director of the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. I'm grateful to all of you for Zooming in from other parts of the country in the world after a long year of Zoom-based events. This is the Archive's fourth research symposium. Our fellowship program is still very young, but I hope that you will agree, after seeing the results of today's symposium, that it aims to make a significant contribution to international scholarship about and based upon video testimonies of Holocaust survivors. We established the Fortunoff Archives Fellowship program with the launch of the Hartman Fellowship in 2018, where it was conceived as a fitting way to honor one of the archive's founders, its faculty advisor for decades, Professor Geoffrey Hartman, who passed away on March 14, 2016. \n\nSTEPHEN NARON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=47.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An eminent professor of comparative literature at Yale, Geoffrey's vision and leadership helped build the Fortunoff Archive into the institution that it is today. Our fellowship program has grown to include other fellowships, all named for the four founders of the archive, Dori Laub, Geoffrey Hartman, Laurel Vlock, and Willie Rosenberg, four recurring fellowships with different areas of focus for four individuals with whom we would not be here today. Beyond our founders, there are many other individuals and organizations to whom I would like to offer a few words of thanks. This fellowship program would not be possible without the support of our faculty advisor, Timothy Snyder, Professor Doug Rogers, who's head of Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies at Yale, and Jennie Shamasna at the MacMillan Center, which is the official institutional home of all of our fellows at Yale. The archive is grateful for all of your assistance, recruiting, and shepherding our international fellows through the process of becoming part of the community. \n\nSTEPHEN NARON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=97.0,154.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would also like to thank our partners at the Vienna Wiesenthal Institute, in particular Eva Kovacs, for providing the framework, funding and international support for our joint fellows in Vienna. Finally, I would like to express my gratitude to the Fortunoff, Blaustein, Kohl, Hornos, Libby, and Ross families, and dozens of other donors, large and small, that helped make the archive possible. \n\nSTEPHEN NARON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=154.0,178.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The primary goal of the fellowship program is to encourage scholarship in the collection and to unlock testimonies and make them more accessible and as intellectually as well as accessible to users by, by charging our fellows with the task of producing an annotated critical edition of a single testimony from the collection. I'd like to invite our Hartman Fellow, Gil Rubin, to tell us more about the critical edition series, as well as well as introduce our speakers today. Gil? \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=178.0,208.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Stephen, so I'm just going to speak, just for a few minutes, I'm going to introduce our Critical Editions series that was launched earlier this year in February. And I'm actually going to share my screen now and tell you a little bit about what it is. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=208.0,223.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So every year, our postdoctoral fellows, our visiting scholars, and various other people associated with the archive produce a critical edition. And what the critical edition is-- and does  everybody see the page currently or? Yeah, okay. What a critical decision is, is basically every visiting scholar selects one testimony from our collection and then they produce two things from it. They produce an introduction, which is a text that is designed for the public, for students, or other researchers that places that testimony in its historical context and situates within the contemporary historical scholarship and literature that is relevant for it. So we had, we could have about, right now we have eight different testimonies here, eight different critical editions. And the second thing that it does is it actually, the researcher and scholar, the look at the, view the testimony, and they present and they produce an annotated transcript. That is once you view the transcript online, I'm going to show it in a second, can actually see explanations of various words, places and so forth, that help you kind of understand that testimony while situated in its time and place. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=223.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'm going to look now at just one testimony and one of our critical editions and kind of guide you through it. So this is, this was produced by Sarah Garibova, who was one of the Hartman fellows here. And what you can see here through this online viewer is that we have an online display of her introduction to the testimony that presents kind of the general historical background, but also situates with the relevant literature. You can click on the various footnotes here and get either more information or other sources that are relevant. And this is how it's been viewed online, from the landing page to viewing each and every testimony. And then, if you have if you want, you can actually hear their songs in the testimony. So they will open up and you can actually listen to this, in this case, the edition she worked on includes a song that was later reproduced also in our Songs From Testimonies project. And additionally, beyond this, you can actually go online and view the testimony that is open, open to everyone to view. I'll just open here, and view it together with an annotated transcript. [CLIP OF TESTIMONY IN RUSSIAN] So I'll just show how it works. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=295.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you can see over here, once there's a word that requires any type of explanation. So you can see here Dr. Garibova's explanation on this specific word, on this specific concept and this specific idea that is presented in the annotated transcript. So the idea here is actually to take our testimonies that are often accessible, either in specific language to a group of researchers or people speak the language and bring them to researchers might not work on this specific subset of testimonies and languages, bring them to students, and bring them to the public. And so far, within the Critical Edition series, we have eight different critical editions and we hope to add more throughout the year. And actually three of the talks that we are going to hear today are, are actually going to turn into critical editions. And I think the speakers will present more about that. I will, I will add now to the chat a link to our critical edition series. And I'm happy to answer any happy to answer any more questions about this. But I just wanted to kind of present here both so we can celebrate and announce the publication of the series, which was the result of a lot of effort of work by our scholars and other people at the archive, and also kind of give context into some of the talks that we'll hear today and see actually how these critical editions are created and the type of questions and issues that the scholars are grappling with as they produce it. So I'm going to put it in the chat in a minute. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=370.0,461.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But before we do that, I'm just going to present our first speaker for today. So basically how it's going to work, we have two sessions. So Chad Gibbs and Julie Dawson are going to present first and then we'll have a Q\u0026A session, and then we will hear presentations from Wendy Lower and Jonathan Petropoulos. And I'll just start with a short intro, a short biography of Chad, and then I'll give him the floor and let him speak. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=461.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chad Gibbs is a PhD candidate at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and the inaugral Dori Laub Fellow at the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. And we want to congratulate him, that in the fall of 2021, he will take up the position of assistant professor of Jewish Studies and director of the Zucker/Goldberg Center for Holocaust Studies at the College of Charleston, and he works on resistance at Treblinka. And his work on the topic was supported by fellowships from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the USC Shoah Foundation, and the George L. Mosse program in history. And today he's going to present about his work, about resistance in Treblinka. And I'll just give you the floor and let you present. And. Stop sharing. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=487.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Have you? Oh, there it goes. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=534.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right, thank you for that introduction. We're seeing my screen OK? All right. On the occasion of Samuel Willenberg's passing in 2016, media outlets around the world mourned him as the last Treblinka death camp survivor. Many outlets ran stories and obituaries, prominently featuring that word last. Two days later, though, the Times of Israel corrected itself by running another story entitled, quote, \"There Are Still Treblinka Survivors Among Us. One Tells His Tale,\" unquote. Having seen earlier reports, the daughter of Leon Rytz reached out to the press to tell of her father's experiences. Rytz still lives in Sweden, where he settled not long after World War II. He's well known there, but his story hadn't come to the attention of the press outside of Sweden. After the Times and other outlets wrote about Rytz though, a new framing of survival at Treblinka began to take hold. The Times subsequently relabeled Willenberg the final survivor of the August 1943 Treblinka prisoners revolt, with italic emphasis. Leon Rytz, as she explained to Amanda Borschel-Dan of the Times, escaped Treblinka before the now famous August 2, 1943, revolt. Rytz also survived several other camps. These facts led Borschel-Dan questioning, left her questioning how we should label his experiences. She wondered whether it was factually correct to call Rytz a Treblinka survivor because he was also imprisoned at Majdanek, Buchenwald, and Bergen-Belsen. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=546.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Borschel-Dan took her question to Yad Vashem's Ehud Amir, who assured her that there's, quote, \"no binding definition of how a Holocaust survivor is labeled. A person who is in several camps can be considered a survivor from each camp in which they were a prisoner,\" unquote. The passing of Samuel Willenberg and the late recognition of Leon Rytz opened new conversations in the media. Noting as they did the different kinds of survival stories told by Willenberg and Rytz, media outlets began to qualify different versions of survival at Treblinka. Willenberg became the last Treblinka revolt survivor, while Rytz holds center stage as the last living survivor and a pre-revolt escapee. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=643.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amir's explanation highlights the fact that there's no commonly understood way to label Holocaust survivor experiences. And in addition to this, at present, there's no historiography of the term \"survivor\" as it relates to a specific place like a camp, ghetto, or shooting site. Many historians and organizations offer capacious and respectful definitions of the wider term \"Holocaust survivor.\" But I don't think we have looked at how the term \"survivor\" can be employed locally and what that might do for research. I think that lack of place, specific understandings of survival is particularly noteworthy with the vibrant expansion of spatial Holocaust research. But as they reacted to the passing of Willenberg and the late emergence of Rytz, reporters began an exploration of these questions and what their answers might mean for understandings of the Holocaust. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=687.0,740.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A revisitation of survival at Treblinka offers opportunities to analyze what it means to be a survivor a certain place during the Holocaust, as well as a chance to assess how many Jews made it out of this extermination camp, and how they did so. Defining survivorship for individual Holocaust locations like the thousands of camps and ghettos of the Nazi system is an essential step for historians seeking to clarify the roles, uses and evolutions of those sites. At Treblinka, the varied means of survival represented by people like Willenberg and Rytz also point to a need for like, some, basic categories of survivor experience. Research that defined survival of certain places can, for instance, help scholars understand the reach and influence of a site beyond its seemingly discrete fences, walls, or borders like that. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=740.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My own interest in survival at Treblinka and finding out how many people survive this place comes from my work's need to deal with a well accepted number of survivors at Treblinka. Many in this audience and other panelists here might, might know the number 68, that might jump out at them as the accepted number of survivors at Treblinka. And that number comes from the 1979 book The Death Camp Treblinka, an edited volume by a man named Alexander Donat, who was himself a Holocaust survivor and had been in the Warsaw ghetto. He listed 68 people that he was able to find in the process of his research in the mid-70s. And though he said at the time that that list was anything but, I think his exact words were are anything but exhaustive, it's pretty much gained a canonical acceptance. When I begin talking about my work at a conference or something like that, I usually get the question, how do you do work on Treblinka? There were only 68 survivors. It happens quite a bit. It's a very well accepted number. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=794.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I have looked at this matter of how many people survived Treblinka and come now to, after a lot of archival work throughout my dissertation research, come to 251 named or identified survivors of the camp and come up with three main ways in which they survived Treblinka. So of those 251 people, 71 are revolt survivors like Isadore H. from the Fortunoff Archive. And that category kind of, it seems to jump out as the most easy to explain category of survival experience at Treblinka. But it gets it gets somewhat murky and it is instructive for finding the boundaries of the camp. So Isadore H. escaped Treblinka on August 2, 1943 during that that prisoner revolt. He took part in the revolt, but if I'm looking at whether or not to put a person in that category, I don't require that they took part or even knew that resistance was going to take place that day. For me, it's enough that they saw the revolt taking place and wisely made for the fences, as everyone else did. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=868.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where the category gets instructive about the limits of Treblinka local power, is in looking at the, so about 300 people made it out during the revolt, but we've only identified 71 of those individuals. Many lost their lives in, in the chase away from Treblinka, or were perhaps, some were caught by locals and brought back to the camp in search of, in hope of a reward, so on and so forth. So in looking at how far they got away from the camp after how much time they were brought back, I believe that in that we can kind of see the local power of Treblinka and its, and its perpetrators. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=942.0,986.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The second group of individuals that I look at, a larger group that is that I look at, is escapees. And to disambiguate that term, I mean, anyone who escaped Treblinka on a day other than August 2, 1943. It's, to my knowledge it is only these 74 people are the only individuals who escaped before the revolt. So sometimes they escaped in...random acts, unplanned acts, I should say, and sometimes they escaped in kind of smaller scale, networked, preplanned events where they, and I think the largest I've seen is about nine others got out at the same time, by coming up with and planning a means to escape the camp. And what they do and what looking at this category and its, and its timeline, especially because there's a certain date at which about January of 1943 at which escape from Treblinka really comes to an end. This option of resistance, this option of trying to survive the camp kind of stops being viable. And that is because there had been so many escapes, you'll notice that number is just, it's pretty large, I believe, for a camp that only operated for 11 months, and larger than our previous knowledge of how many people who survived at all. And in that, it instructs as to how big of a problem escape was for the Nazi guards who ran Treblinka. So much so that in January of '43, they opened a new barracks building that basically cut off this version of this, of survival. But at the same time, that was something of a putting out a bonfire by starting a forest fire, because once they moved all Treblinka prisoners to that new barracks, prisoners testimonies then start to say, well, now we could plan a revolt because we could all talk to each other in the barracks at night. So that was a pivotal turning point in Treblinka history brought about by this form of resistance by escapes prior to the revolt. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=986.0,1120.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally, there's one last major category that I want to cover. Perhaps I'll have to leave some of it for Q\u0026A if we want to get there. But I called this last group through-transport survivors, and this sort of changes our understanding of how the Nazis used Treblinka as a part of the wider Holocaust, because the certain timing of people who were brought to Treblinka, stepped off the train, and were then put back on a train to somewhere else, tells us about the camp's role in wider perpetration. So, Ben L. here, who was incredibly shocking for me to find because it turned out that Ben L., his, his family is actually third generation Wisconsin Badgers. So I ended up finding out that a current undergrad at my own university is a descendant of, of this man. And these people came in about two different ways that came as the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was taking place, and they also came as a resistance was going on in the Bialystok ghetto. And in a longer explanation, I could get into how that really informs us about Treblinka's, how Treblinka fit into these other events, and how those other events changed what went on at Treblinka. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1120.0,1205.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That being my last major case, if you've been following along quickly with your calculator or something, you'll notice that the numbers don't entirely add up, and that's because there are some individuals their, their trip, their story doesn't exactly give us enough information to, to say for certain how they survived. And there are a few very unique cases, but I couldn't get into those in the amount of time here. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1205.0,1231.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So just to, to wrap up, Leon Rytz, the media's, quote, \"last survivor of Treblinka,\" may well be the last living voice of survivor survival at this extermination camp, though it's impossible to know for certain. I think that's the most important thing to point out about any making of a list. The fact that a Treblinka survivor would now be nearing 100 years old makes it likely that Mr. Rytz is alone in his experiences. Similarly, the increasing age of all but the youngest child survivors of the Holocaust means that these last experience and last voice news stories, I think will sadly only increase in the coming years. As they do, journalists like the Times' Borschel-Dan will struggle to find prudent and respectful ways to describe the lives and paths of the people they cover. Historians, I think, would be would do well to get ahead of this coming wave of media definitions by providing their own. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1231.0,1291.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This, however, is not the only reason that scholars should address the definition of survivorship at the places they study. Research on Treblinka demonstrates that we should be prepared to find another kind of last survivor of the camp. Many individuals now passed away remain unacknowledged survivors of this place. The permanently incomplete nature of any survivor list means that even after Mr Rytz leaves us, others who survived will still await recognition. Defining place-specific survival can advance our understandings of localized perpetration, the actions of victims and context, and a spatial reach of individual sites of Holocaust criminality. Revolt survivors compel us to consider where the bounds of this camp stopped, complicating any simplistic view of the fences as its bounds of perpetrator power. Escape survivors, meanwhile, provide an important understanding of how Jewish resistance changed the very face of Treblinka and helped create the conditions needed for revolt planning. Through-transport survivors take us, take our knowledge of resistance other than revolt still further, while also allowing us to see how Treblinka fit into the wider Holocaust, as well as how camp routines changed over time. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1291.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't propose a single definition of place-based survivorship. I think that many of the over 44,000 camps and ghettos of the Third Reich will require unique understandings. The thousands of mass shooting sites may demand still more reckonings with the idea of survivorship. Localized definitions, though, will help scholars seeking to understand the experiences, choices and paths of the individuals they studied who were forced to confront Nazi genocide. Spatial studies of the Holocaust will benefit still further from this means of determining the boundaries of their studies and how they fit into overall trends. Finally, the active idea of defining survival in a capacious and respectful manner makes it possible to honor the stories of the people that we study. Increasing the number of survivors of a place like Treblinka that killed as many as 925,000 from 68 to 251 in no way alters its overwhelming lethality. The importance of my work for the history of Treblinka is instead the creation of an update to Donat's list that's more capable of foregrounding the differences and individual paths to survival and demonstrating to interested researchers that additional testimonial evidence awaits their use. The stories of those left off Donat's list deserve recognition and inclusion by future scholars, even while we continue to acknowledge that no list will ever be complete. Thank you. I'll stop sharing now. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1374.0,1471.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Chad. Thank you so much for your talk. I'll just remind everyone that you can leave questions in the Q\u0026A and that will take them after Chad's talk. It was a wonderful talk and super interesting. I think it's going to tie to some of the other things we're going to hear today. Is somebody raise his hand? Jonathan? Sure.\n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1471.0,1492.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did raise my hand, at least virtually. Thank you, Chad, for an excellent talk. Very interesting. I wanted to ask you about the through-transport survivors. I confess, I had not heard about people arriving at Treblinka and then diverted and sent elsewhere. Could you elaborate and tell us a bit more about what the purpose was and what the experience was like for those through-transport survivors? \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1492.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. I think, So there's two... two more prevalent experiences among that group. Number one is that individuals would arrive at Treblinka sometimes and the train would stop at Treblinka II, the extermination camp. And then at times, the labor needs of Treblinka I, the nearby labor and penal camp, which is often said to have been for Polish prisoners, but it had a large Jewish population as well. Sometimes that camp's needs, if we want to put it that way, would be met by taking people off of the train at Treblinka II, and putting them back on, sorting them if you want, and putting them back on a train to Treblinka I. And we learn about resistance in this moment, even if it's a very short period of time, because a lot of stories are told about how, how people tried to look ready for work, how they tried to jump into a line if they saw that, you know, this was the right line to be in. So there's a lot of very quick thinking resistance that's like short episodes, but very important and saves many lives. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1516.0,1587.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That other group is usually sent on to Majdanek. So, at the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising particularly, I'll just simplify things by staying on that one topic with this answer. At the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, it seems that the Nazis tried to push the population of the Warsaw Ghetto out on trains as fast as they possibly could, and that meant that they didn't sort probably in the way that they normally did, and people were instead sorted at Treblinka. And then those thought fit for labor were place back on the train and sent to Lublin-Majdanek. So that, that experience happens at basically two different times. It's kind of the same episode, the same reasoning going on, but it occurs at the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and at the time of resistance in the Bialystok ghettos as that is being closed. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1587.0,1643.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excellent, excellent. Thank you, very, very helpful. Out of curiosity, what was the survival rate at Majdanek for the people who were sent on their, probably very, very low as well, I would presume. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1643.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's, yeah. So it's it's very, it's low, it's not good. However, it's, it's way better, you know, it's way better than if they had stayed at Treblinka where there's basically, other than the revolt, once you're in the camp, if you can't get out in the revolt or you can't escape on your own, it's almost certain death. Being sent on to Majdanek after you've already been chosen, quote unquote, \"fit for work,\" the chances of survival are much, much better than had you not stayed or then had you stayed at Treblinka. So it's, um, a lot of those people do lose their lives later, either through being worked, worked far too hard at wherever they were sent next, but, you know, I didn't actually say in the talk that I count someone as a Treblinka survivor even if they die later in the Holocaust. And I know of many individuals who fit that explanation. But I think that we need to keep them there because, you know, that doesn't change the one event in their life to have to have perished in another incident. But, yeah, it's still bad, just to sum up. But so much better than, than staying at Treblinka. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1657.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you both. With the rest of the questions, it seems there is another question from Professor Avinoam Patt, but we'll take them, I think, after Julie's presentation just we kind of take the questions then. That's fine, I mean, I could have, but so I'll just present Julie briefly. And then after Julie's presentation, we're going to have a Q\u0026A session with both Julie and Chad. Julie Dawson is the Fortunoff fellow at the Vienna Wiesenthal Institute and a doctoral candidate at the University of Vienna's Institute for Contemporary History. Her dissertation examines postwar Jewish life in Romania through the lens of recently found diaries of a Transnistrian survivors. She worked for the Leo Baeck Institute from 2010 to 2019 and directed their archival survey of Transylvania and Bukovina from 2012 to 2019. And she was a researcher in Medias, Romania for the EU Horizon 2020 project called TRACES: Transmitting Contentious Cultural Heritage with the Arts. And she's published several articles which you can see on her website,  under her, on her bio on her website and her research more generally includes Jewish Bukovina, Communist Romania, women's history, trauma, and memory studies. And I'll let you start presenting Julie. And please write any other questions you have for either Julia and Chad in the Q\u0026A session. And we will discuss them briefly. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1740.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, thank you. I'm going to share my screen. All right. All right, thank you very much, Gil and Stephen and the Fortunoff Archive for the invitation and support. My project is somewhat different from the other presentations as my focus is not on oral histories per se, but rather on this newly discovered written testimony that Gil mentioned, a set of diaries written in the immediate postwar period in Romania. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1826.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Due to the nature of the diaries, however, consulting oral histories is crucial for contextualizing my subject's Holocaust experience. And then I use oral histories to complement and expand my subject's writings. I'm also only a little halfway through my fellowship. I took maternity leave partway through, so my research is still ongoing, I view new material every week, every day and gain new insights all the time. In this short talk, I'm going to introduce my overall project with the diaries as the core analytic lens. I'll give some biographical background on the author, of just a tiny bit into trauma theory, and discuss my continuing examination of the associated oral histories. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1866.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the diary. One spring day in 2009, a peach colored notebook was discovered by volunteers cleaning up a document-littered woman's balcony of a shuttered synagogue from a small Transylvanian town. The notebook, it quickly became clear, was a diary, filled from cover to cover with carefully pencilled German, the words very clear to read and often distressed. Eventually four notebooks and several related papers were found. Containing over 800 entries, the diary stretch from 1948 to 1961 and record the postwar life of brief and limited triumph of a young survivor of the Transnistrian Holocaust, Blanka Lebzelter. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1908.0,1952.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These diaries are a tremendous tool for researchers. They provide multifaceted entry points for examining daily life of Jewish survivors in the initial decades after the war, as well as for analyzing the repercussions of violent trauma to everyday life. They indicate spaces in which individuals were able to perform acts of agency despite totalitarian strictures and also those places where the cold machinations of the totalitarian state devastated individual lives. They, moreover, shed light on cultural and social practices, and Jewish life at the time with especially fascinating insights into the operations of Romanian Zionist youth organizations in the late 1940s, about which little to nothing has been written to date. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1952.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Furthermore as an inherently gendered source, the writings testify to the life of a young single woman raised at the interface of tradition and modernity, struggling for a voice in the profoundly patriarchal nation. Finally, the author's narration of global events from the founding of the state of Israel to the 1956 Hungarian uprising, as well as political and cultural responses to the Holocaust, such as the establishment of German reparations and the publication of Anna Frank's diaries, indicate an interconnectedness to the world that belies and soon the impermeability of the Iron Curtain. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=1996.0,2032.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, who was Blanka Lebzelter? Blanka Lebzelter was born near or in Czernowitz in the early, mid, early to mid 1920s. Her father, Josef Lebzelter, was a civil servant during the Austro-Hungarian period, fill, filling official clerical duties in several Bukovinian villages and towns. Her mother, Anna, grew up in Czernowitz and her family overlapped with the social circles of Paul Anschel, later, the poet line Celan. Lebzelter's first cousin, Gustav was, Gustav Chomed, was close boyhood friends with Anschel and in postwar correspondence, the two wrote nostalgically of Gustav's home and the Topfergasse, this being also the home of Lebzelter's grandparents and aunt and uncle. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2032.0,2078.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Lebzelter family were entrenched German speaking Central European Jews. Her older brother had recently graduated from the University of Prague in Architecture; her fiance had studied medicine there. Her father, most recently secretary of the Waschkoutz town hall was in his 60s at the start of the war, living in quiet retirement, in a home with a garden full of fruit trees and a small riverside town short train ride from Czernowitz. The Lebzelters were generally assimilated and marginally religious, probably in the inferred manner explained in one testimony from Pearl Taub of Czernowitz, who, when asked about her family's religious observance and education demures, but when asked specifically whether her mother lit candles on Friday evenings, answered, \"Oh, definitely, yes. Yes.\" When the war broke out, Lebzelter was probably 19 or 20. She was well educated, speaking, besides her German mother tongue, Romanian, Russian, English, most likely she understood Yiddish and Ukrainian. She had a deep appreciation for theater, literature, and the arts, distinct distaste for manual labor, and was deeply ashamed of depending on charity. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2078.0,2148.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the summer of 1941, after the Barbarossa operation began, the Romanian army invaded northern Bukovina, which had been occupied by the Soviet Union the previous year. During the first few weeks of July, 1941, pogroms were carried out in countless villages in this region. Perpetrators included Romanian soldiers, Ukrainian and Romanian peasants, as well as a German Einsatz troop. And in Lebzelter's home of Waschkoutz, the Jews pulled from their houses and gathered at the gendarmerie. A group of prominent men were selected for execution, marched to a lower hillside outside the town and shot. Among these Lebzelters, father and brother, Josef and Bruno, her fiancee, she learns, was similarly murdered in a different location. Lebzelter and her mother, Anna, were later deported to Transnistria, where they spent three years in the Moghilev ghetto. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2148.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Upon their release in 1945, the women returned initially to Czernowitz. Regarding this homecoming, Lebzelter writes, quote, \"The hour arrived where we saw appear in the distance the towers of the Czernowitz archbishop's residence. I gazed, spellbound upon these towers, and listened inside for an echo of joy. But there was nothing of the kind. I sensed only my raw, sore heart and worries about the future.\" She goes on to explain the motives for their subsequent departure. Quote, \"we felt poorly in the old home upon the ruins of our lives, like day and night, by those hard memories and among those who are not innocent in our tragedy.\". \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2200.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The two women left, making their way eventually to the Black Sea port town of Constanta. Here, the diaries begin in January of 1948 and until 1961. When she finally received her longed for exit visa, Lebzelter kept a record of her daily life and struggle with loneliness, her mother's eventual death from tuberculosis in 1952, and always of penetrating grief. When she left in 1961, she passed the diaries to her cousin, Babette Chomed, Gustav's sister, who had settled after the war in Medias, a town in Transylvania. Her last recorded words are, quote, \"I'm very exhausted. The moment approaches to leave the old home and seek a new one. What will I find? One is not allowed to bring diaries. I could not bring myself to destroy them. I'm entrusting them to someone for safekeeping. Will they ever find their way back to me?\" End quote. These diaries were found in 2009 by volunteers cleaning up the woman's balcony of the synagogue in the Transylvanian town, where Lebzelter's cousin had remained almost until her death in the late 1980s. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2239.0,2307.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My project examines these diaries from multiple perspectives and singular testimony representing survivor narratives that have been little probed and as a source allowing unexplored insights into social and cultural history considerations of postwar Romania. My overarching research question center around trauma, oppression, and agency. My current focus at the Vienna Wiesenthal Institute and working with the Fortunoff Archive is reconstructing Lebzelter's wartime experience in context while also deconstructing the manifestations of trauma and her postwar writings. In her seminal work on trauma and narrative, comparative literature scholar Cathy Caruth describes the double telling of the center of trauma narratives. She writes of the, quote, \"oscillation between a crisis of death and the correlative crisis of life, between the story of the unbearable nature of an event and the story of the unbearable nature of its survival,\" unquote. The diaries witnessed this crisis of life, but understanding Lebzelter's crisis of death is essential to presenting her story. My work with the oral histories of the Fortunoff Archive aims to fill this lacuna in Lebzelter's biography, even though such a contextualization will and must be, in its very nature, imperfect and incomplete. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2307.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So how am I incorporating these oral histories into Lebzelter's story? She herself mentions Transnistria in the diaries only a handful of times, generally when some aspect of her life recalls to her mind, her experience, for example, when she and her mother are suffering from severe hunger or without heat, when her hachshara group is thrown out of its lodgings and made to stand outside in the snowy night, when state bureaucracy intrudes with irrational demands. Fine details about the pogrom during which her father and brother were executed are recalled in three letters she wrote to the dead. But regarding the years in the Moghilev ghetto, she writes only a handful of nondescript sentences. Their survival, she explains in disbelief, was, quote, \"a miracle. I cannot explain it in any other way.\". \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2388.0,2443.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For my research, I'm looking at all the interviews of individuals with overlapping biographical details, especially those who spent time in Moghilev. Remarkably little has been written about the site. And so I'm looking at anyone who was there or passed through. A number of individuals who actually remained in Moghilev is small. It was a transit point, and many arrived only to leave within a few days. Some who escaped from camps further east made their way back to Moghilev or generally tried to hide outside of the ghetto. The draw may have been due to the size of the town and the resulting anonymity possible. Food may have been easier to come by. Work, which resulted in food may also have been easier to obtain. Ideally, of course, I would find an oral history from a woman of similar age and background to Lebzelter who also spent years in the Moghilev ghetto. Thus far I have not found such an interview. The women, in fact, tend to be significantly younger than Blanka as they were children or adolescents during the war. These people experience, in addition to the specific acts of violence, the particular anguish of losing their innocence, learning that their parents could not protect them or their siblings. The other women tend to be older than Blanka and already with children of their own. Survival, or not, of their children generally forms the core of these women stories. The men who were in the ghetto speak of surviving with work. It is not clear if women were able to work in the same manner as the men. If not, than how their survival was achieved. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2443.0,2537.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I mentioned, I'm only just halfway through my fellowship and I still have many interviews to listen to, I look forwatd to my ongoing work and especially to writing about my results. To conclude, I would like to quote scholars Marianne Hirsch and Leo Spitzer. In a reflection on creating channels silenced or neglected voices of the Transnistrian Holocaust they remind us that, quote, \"Each individual story helps to shape a larger history, by providing it with detailed depth and nuance. And in turn, each story is enhanced and given broader meaning through its contextualization within a larger historical matrix. Post generations haunted by stories that have not been worked through still find that they owe the victims this act of attentive listening, as well as this act of historical work, of historical repair,\" unquote. So on that note, I want to thank the Fortunoff Archive and the Vienna Wiesenthal Institute for enabling this act of attentive listening and returning a voice to the subject was unable to publicly witness during her life. Thank you\n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2537.0,2604.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Julie, for this wonderful talk. I think we'll open this up for questions. Feel free to write questions for Julie and Chad now in the Q\u0026A box and we'll read them out. I think we have a few questions for Chad that people wrote during your presentation. So I'm going to read them out and just read out, start with the first two questions, although I think the second and the third one tie together some, so I'm just going to give out the questions for Chad and give him the opportunity to answer them and Julie, if you have something to add to that, too, please feel free to jump in. So, Chad, if you also want to turn on your video and audio so you can add to that. So Avinoam Patt, Avinoam Patt asks, \"what does your research suggests about knowledge of the final solution among Jews in Poland during the war for your subjects, particularly escapees? Escapees talk about encountering a refusal to believe the reports about Treblinka,\" and Gabriel Finder asks, \"What would you consider Polish Jews who spent the war years and the Holocaust in Soviet Asia? Would you consider them also as survivors, the, kind of, stayed within the interior of the Soviet Union?\" And then we have another question from Oren Stier. \"So you're, you're evolving a critical definition of survivorship. Your brief remarks at the end about category, about categorizing through-transport Treblinka survivors, even if they subsequently perished, were murdered in another camp, as Treblinka survivors, has a potential to shake up the very notion of survival. What, we do not typically classify as survivors, those individuals who made it through one or a series of camps only to be murdered at the last one. So what will this different perspective do to understanding of survivorship related to concepts like resistance?\" I think all of these questions tied together and Chad, please feel free to answer. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2604.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Thanks for all these questions and thank Julie for her excellent talk as well. I think I'll take the first. I'm looking at the Q\u0026A here. So for escapees and what they encounter about refusal to believe the reports about Treblinka. Absolutely, there's, there's a great deal of that in oral histories and other testimonies. It took more than a few, the first you know, there's the first wave of escapees were not believed or were silenced because the, the reality of what they were saying was too hard for people to bear. But as as time goes on, the, partly through how many people escape the camp and how many voices there were saying what it really was, that information does get out and it becomes more and more accepted. And testimony from revolt survivors, particularly individuals who were there for more, a longer period in the camp. They talk about later transports from Poland, Polish Jews arriving at Treblinka, acting out in spontaneous acts of resistance as they get off the train because they know exactly what Treblinka is. There, there's the people have heard about how the, the arrival area, Treblinka, was painted to look like a train station. And that really, that ruse really only worked on individuals arriving from Western Europe. There were Jews sent to Treblinka from eleven different nations. Those from Poland tended to already know what it was. And there was a good deal of resistance in one form or another as they got off the train. Those from Western Europe or from further away tended not to know what Treblinka was. And perhaps that painting of the arrival area as, as a, as a train station actually worked in that way. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2717.0,2847.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To the other two questions, I do think, to Dr. Finder, I do think that Jews who lived out the the Holocaust years in Soviet Asia are survivors. I particularly, I personally like the very, very capacious definition of survival that's offered by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum that says that anyone who fled persecution basically from the Nazi rise to power in 1933, however they get out, wherever they go, is a Holocaust survivor. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2847.0,2881.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then to Dr. Stier's question that is sort of connected to that. I would say that, I see where you're asking that. And I think in the longer piece, I talk about how that, that individual is still not a survivor of the Holocaust, that person who dies after getting out of Treblinka, but they have survival experiences in their past. All of these people are victims of the Holocaust, to be sure. So that that terminology doesn't really help us either. But to say that someone who perishes at their last camp, I would still say they're not a Holocaust survivor because they perished. But they can be, they can have a past that is, as a survival, survivor of Treblinka or fill in other experience here. So I think that that just kind of, you know, maybe it adds a back story, looking at it in that localized context, as you bring up there, it adds a back story to individuals that we were only thinking of as as people who perished in the Holocaust, perhaps. But at some, at, you know, at another level, they have survived other things, whatever those might have been. And thanks for all those questions. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2881.0,2955.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Chad. And I think Joanne here, Joanne Rudof writes that Fortunoff defines survivors as anyone who lived under Nazi occupation. That's another definition. I had a question for Julie also here. And my question was a little bit, if you could just expand a little bit about, right, because, you know the Fortunoff Archive, we have video testimonies and you're also kind of incorporating that with diaries. So maybe just also, you know, both specifically about your research, but also generally working with these two different forms of, of historical documentation. Right. And where do you see the differences? What do you see and what your perspective working with both, with diaries and with video testimony. What is the difference and how differently do you think you approach and we should approach these types of testimony? \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=2955.0,3002.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, thank you. It's a question I think about a lot in particular with these diaries, because they were found diaries and there are other diaries and numerous memoirs about Transnistria and even that take place in Romania in some of the postwar time. But they've been curated and redacted. And what for me is particularly unique about the sources, it's lostness. I mean, the fact that actually we also don't know what happened to the woman. I haven't been able to find her yet as the project proceeds. I used to think that, well, I'm not going to focus on that because I have so many of the things that I need to focus on. But as it goes on, I'm finding that it seems very important to find out what happened to her afterwards, how, if there's any way of finding out what happened to her and also how she used this period that I'm writing about, because a lot of these oral histories are, you know they're, they are told sort of from a point of view of a happy ending, even though many of the people are traumatized for life and maybe they wouldn't-- that goes into the whole trauma thing, if you can have a happy ending after what was experienced. \n\nJULIE DAWSON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3002.0,3081.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, but nevertheless, the memoirs and oral histories talk about that a lot. How did you survive? What did, what helped you do this? How did, why were you resilient? These words and you know, this is what we don't have from the, from the diaries. We don't know if she ever... what, did she consider then, that chapter of her life just one chapter and she put it away and she moved on. Was she able to move or, move on in some way? I don't know. And to me, that is the biggest difference between these diaries specifically and the letters also. I didn't go into the letters, but the letters contained the biographical information that I provided. She writes them to her deceased loved ones, and they are narrative in form and they are different. They're more similar to the oral histories in that sense, except for that she did not write them to an audi-- or to what audience did she write them. So I don't know. I could talk on and on about this entire section of my project about sort of what was the, why did she write? For whom was she writing? I mean, she wanted the diaries to be kept. She finds out about Anna Frank in the fifties and is very moved by this. So I think about that sometimes. But of course, she'd already been keeping the diaries for a long time. If she's extremely moved by the knowledge of that. And she in general was a writer, she wrote a screen book and tried to have it, I'm sorry, a screenplay and tried to have it published. And so, yeah, these are all questions that I'm dealing with. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3081.0,3184.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. If anyone has, thank you so much for answering, and if anyone has any other questions, let me know. If not, we're just going to actually move on to our next presentation by Professor Wendy Lower. I'll shortly present Professor Lower. Wendy Lower is the John K. Roth Professor of History and Director of the Center for Human Rights at Claremont McKenna College. Lower chairs the Academics Committee of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and serves as acting director of the Jack, Joseph and Morton Mandel Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum between, she served between 2016 and 2018, and she was a German Research Foundation Fellow at the Ludwing Maximilians Universität in Munich between 2007-2012, where she introduced courses on the Holocaust with the testimonies of perpetrators and bystanders, and led an initiative to establish a federally funded German center for Holocaust studies at the Institute for Contemporary History. And Professor Lower is the author of multiple books, which you can see listed on her profile on her website. Among them, the most recent one is The Ravine: A Family, A Photograph, A Holocaust Massacre Revealed, which she also presented about at Yale, I think about a month ago. And I'm sure many of you have seen also the reviews in the press. And I'll just let Professor Lower start presenting. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3184.0,3274.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much, Gil, can you hear me and see the screen? \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3274.0,3277.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3277.0,3278.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. Well, I want to thank everybody on the team at the Fortunoff archive and our hosts, Stephen Naron and the MacMillan Center. It's been a real honor to be the William Rosenberg scholar this semester. And I just, you know, despite the limitations with Covid, we really enjoyed our time in New Haven and our visits to the library, and our mining of the archives there. And just incredibly grateful for that. And I hope that we can return at some point and do some more of this in person. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3278.0,3307.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So let me just get right down to my presentation. I'm basically broken down into kind of seven sections. Don't be-- I'm going to keep to my time. But the way I've organized it is basically to start with, Eric Hauser is the testimony of focusing on, his bio, his biography. Then why I selected him and my kind of selection process and my research process, how I handled this source and his testimony, and then delve into the content of his presentation, why he testified, and he states so explicitly, and I listen to that and studied, you know, what his rationale was and what stories he wanted to emphasize. And then further in, in subsequent sections of, to look at some of the ideas that Lawrence Langer has presented as like \"frozen moments of anguish,\" as he puts it, memory of, of the senses. These were some of the elements of his testimony to me that popped out, that stood out, that I wanted to delve into. And then lastly, the material culture part of this or the performative part of this, how he presents things during his testimony, the objects he decides to bring into his story and the documents that he shares. And then at some concluding questions about the challenge of, as an historian, of annotating and contextualizing and what we mean by contextualization and the limits of that, as well as the potential problems with over contextualizing and kind of decentering the survivor's testimony as a result. So I'm kind of grappling with that balancing as well as ethical endeavor as an historian. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3307.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, let me just tell you a little bit about Eric Hauser. Here he is. My screenshot of him from the testimony that he, he gave. He was born in 1908 in Gródek, Gródek, Jagiellonski, Poland, which is now Horodok, Ukraine. He had two siblings, younger siblings, a sister and a brother. Gródek's gentile population at the time of his youth, barred Jews from entering the trade guilds and as a result, the Jewish community there was rather poor. But despite this, Isaac's family was well off. His father, Moses, was a contractor of his own business, and he built a lot of houses and issued mortgages to other Jewish families. And Isaac's grandfather. I'm referring to Isaac now, you know, interchanging out with Eric. He took the kind of American name Eric when he arrived in America in 1949. So I referred to him interchangeably as Isaac and Eric. So I hope that's not that confusing. So Isaac's grandfather was the head of the Jewish community and he was able to use his influence to place Isaac in the Catholic high school where he graduated valedictorian in 1926. And the community itself from Gródek prioritized education. Most could read Polish and German, and everyone read religious texts. And like other Jewish youth, Isaac had leftist and socialist leanings under Polish rule. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3420.0,3501.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a Jew, Isaac was not accepted to a Polish university and moved to Czechoslovakia to attend the technical university in Brno, and in 1931 he got a master's degree in electrical and mechanical engineering. This is going to be really important as far as his ability to survive, that education. After completing his studies at the university, he returned to Poland. His degree was not recognized by the authorities and he had to take another exam. This is something he delves int in his presentation. He worked as an engineer and assistant manager for a Jewish owned oil field in western Galicia. And in 1939, his family moved into a large house in Lwów. They moved into the city of Lwów, L'viv, Lvov, Poland in September '39. With the start of the war in accordance with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Germany invaded western Poland. The Soviet army annexed eastern Poland. Lwów was occupied and incorporated into the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, now part of the Russian dominated Soviet Union. No more interwar, no longer interwar Poland, with the break, with the destruction of Poland. So Isaac's, a manager, at this moment emptied most of the company's bank account and fled for America, leaving Isaac in charge of two hundred twenty employees and no payroll. His reputation among the employees prevented them from turning on him. Shortly thereafter, as the Germans approached, Isaac was given orders to dismantle the oil wells and equipment to make them nonfunctional. And he goes into a lot of detail in testimony about the plants, the oil fields in Boryslav. And he's really impressed with these, these, the industrial materials there and the kind of modern features of those plants that he still, he's still kind of reminisces about that and his eyes light up when he talks about it. So, but when they're dismantling these oil wells and they're hiding carburetors and trying to make them nonfunctional, this kind of sabotage to him I think is kind of is kind of painful, but necessary. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3501.0,3627.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"During the night, he took four other Jews and they tried to escape in a car that he had hidden nearby, he was very clever. And he, they, they, but he was driving on some dark, rough roads and he ended up crashing the car into a river. They survived. And is, this group, that with the four other Jews, they managed to walk to the railroad station. They made it to, caught a train to Lwów. And the description there of the railroad station is really memorable as well of the German Stukas strafing and coming down and shooting, deliberately shooting into the windows of the railway cars and killing civilians. And that was the train they had to board and take to Lwów. There, when he got to Lwów, he met and married Louise Finkler so he would be with his wife throughout the war and survived with her. He couldn't find work in Lwów, so he and his wife Louise headed forty seven miles south to Boryslav, where he had extended family, and he became the head of a mechanical and electrical department at the Boryslav Power Plant and worked there as the head of the workshop. And Louise worked there as well. They were among 13,000 Jews of Boryslav and subjected to severe restrictions and psychological abuse by the Soviets. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3627.0,3705.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In June '41, when Germany invaded the Soviet Union and occupied Boryslav, a Ukrainian militia organized a violent pogrom against the Jewish population. Here's the location here to give you a little bit of a geographic orientation. This is from Thomas Sandkühler's book \"Endlösung\" in Galizien. Here we have the city of Lemberg, L'viv, Lwów, Gródek here. This is where he was born and grew up, Isaac, and he's making his way down here to the oil fields or petroleum fields of Boryslav, not far from Drohobych. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3705.0,3744.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A Ukrainian militia organized a violent pogrom against the Jewish population, an administration, German administration soon authorized the establishment of a Jewish ghetto in Boryslav near the end of November, when they conducted their first organized aktion in the city, capturing and killing 7 to 800 Jews. 30 members of Isaac's extended family were killed as a result. These actions against the population continue to take place every few months. And even though they had papers, Isaac had papers, that they were, that were supposed to protect them, they still hid during the actions to avoid getting picked off on the streets. In 1942, Ukrainian and mounted German police surrounded his column marching to work, and Isaac fled, jumping over a fence of an oil storage facility while being shot at. During another early Aktion, he and his wife went to the house of the member of a Jewish militia who let them hide in his apartment. Other times, they hid for days in partially flooded basements. Isaac also helped build an escape tunnel for Jews to hide, which they were able to construct without detection. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3744.0,3806.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In November '42, a forced labor camp was established for the 1,470 Jews who were working for the oil company in Boryslav. And during that month, Isaac was issued an R badge, identifying him as a Rüstung arbeiter. This was a very life saving document. During the interview, he placed, he still has the badge and he places it on his chest, in this kind of, in this kind of gesture, it was clear that this was an incredibly important document for him, that he kept this pass, allowed him to leave the camp to conduct technical work for the oil wells. He had to pay bribes to officials, issuing another ID card that specified he was a specialized engineer. His profession obviously was important for the war effort. Authorities continue to kill and transport Jews to concentration camps, and they completed the liquidation of the Boryslav ghetto in June '43. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3806.0,3864.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in this last phase of the war in April '44, as the Germans were doing these final, completing these final liquidations, and the Soviet army began advancing toward Boryslav, Isaac believed that the Germans would kill the remaining Jews. And so he forged to pass, another document for his wife, and they were able to escape the camp. And for six weeks they hid in the attic of a Ukrainian peasant alongside 16 other people. Boryslav was liberated by the Soviet army on August 7th. After liberation, Isaac was able to acquire Polish papers for Louise and himself, and they were permitted to cross the border into Poland. They went back to Lwów, where Isaac's family had been forced from the Lwów ghetto into the Janowska Street camp, and his family was probably killed there in 1943, when the ghetto and the camp were destroyed, and the city was declared free of Jews. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3864.0,3915.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The couple then traveled to Munich, where Isaac acquired a job with the World ORT Union as the director of the vocational school there with two thousand students. He provided training courses to survivors to help them rebuild their lives in new countries. And in 1947, Isaac and Louise gave depositions for the court proceedings against the police and Gestapo in Boryslav and Drohobych. Isaac and Louise lived in Munich until emigrating to the United States in October 1949, where they, when they change their names to Eric and Louise, and settled in New York. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3915.0,3952.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Here's an image of the oil fields in Boryslav where they worked. Sorry, this is a bit blurry. This was the orphanage he mentions in his testimony. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3952.0,3962.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So let me tell you a little bit about my selection process. And here is the document that he, his testimony that he gave, I mentioned, in Munich to the office, at the office of Liberated Jews in 1947, which was held in the Sterling Memorial, part of the collection of the Fortunoff Archive there, that I was able to to study as well. Well, I started out looking at survivors of wartime Ukraine, today's borders, because I'd worked on Ukraine and I thought about it would be a good foundation. And then I, and I looked at those, the ones that actually were in English. This testimony, Hauser gave in English, and his testimony really was outstanding for me because of the vivid memories that he presented, the image I described to you of the German planes firing into the trains, the fact that he, he was able to provide that kind of empirically rich detail, specific names and places of people he interacted with, the Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, Germans and fellow Jews. Identifying the worst perpetrators in the region. I, and many of those names were familiar to me, and I knew some of them were very obscure, not that well known in the literature. And yet he was calling them out for, like one of the chiefs, chiefs I wrote about in Hitler's Furies actually, is the husband and wife and, in Drohobych, the Blocks. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=3962.0,4051.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also, we have is supporting documentation, this testimony that's on the screen there from 1947, which would open up another, possibilities for research to kind of corroborate those names and to look into those war crimes cases. His, the fact that he covered kind of each chapter of his life, his youth in Poland. He described the inter ethnic tensions of Poles and Ukrainians and Jews and how that was aggravated and exploited by the Soviet and Nazi occupiers. He was candid about some of the most cruel and shameful behavior, including crimes committed by Jews, sexual violence. You know, he just, there were no taboos in the way that he presented his, his account, and the clarity of his purpose. He said, I'm giving my testimony and he would stop and kind of cue the audience, you know, pay attention to this now. But also the fact that he was not in his straightforward accounts, you know, there were a lot of, it was very emotional as well. And he would stop, the kinds of gestures on the screen, the pauses, the coughs, the downward glances. Sometimes he holds up the paper and kind of hides behind the papers. He's talking because he's getting, his eyes are welling up. And when he, what he says, moments when he becomes overcome. And the themes that are in his storytelling of gender, the sexual violence, the attention to women's history, the attention to class, talking about what he calls the Klondike laborers in the oil fields that he managed, the drill masters, the welders, the blacksmiths, the rough types, he said, who are eager to fight, whom the Russians broke and turned it into ants and lambs and informers. His descriptions of race in the hierarchies, the Nazi ladder that he talked of, related privileges and deprivations that were determined by race. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4051.0,4172.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So my process of, of going through his, his testimony was, you know, multipronged in a way. First, I listened to it. I was stopping and taking notes, put, inserting footnotes and various annotations, and then I would put my own remarks in about his manners and his gestures and facial expressions. I basically combined the Christopher Browning approach of triangulation, of testimony with other sources and various tests of, say, probability, and, veracity and logic. I checked his stories and some of his the names and places in it and accounts against secondary literature. Dieter Pohl's work, Thomas Sandkühler, Tim Snyder's work, Kai Struve, John-Paul Himka, of course. Then I checked the trial records for the perpetrators that he identified and many of them were indicted in a case in Bremen and also an important case that's occurred in Austria, I'm waiting to get that indictment actually from the Wiener Library. I went into the ITS records and found his name on various lists from the World Jewish Congress. I also tried to find his descendants. I tried to, I found the Hauser family in New York, but it was Buffalo, New York, not Rego Park. I found the wrong Hauser family. And other family of the descendants of survivors I talked to actually yesterday in Buffalo, New York, but not the right one. So I'm trying to pursue that as well. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4172.0,4273.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I combine this empirical approach with what kind of Noah Shenker and Han-- Hank Greenspan stressed in their work on listening and reframing Holocaust testimony with special attention on the performative aspects. Because, of course, this is a video account. And I was inspired as well by what the founders of the Fortunoff Archive envisioned, that is a collection of voices that effectively, effectively and affectively created a provisional community bound by memory and the recognition of trauma. So I wanted to be conscious of the manner in which the testimonies were collected, the stories, how they are told of human suffering, and then the history that is then created as a result or conveyed and, and received. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4273.0,4321.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Noah Shenker's book, Reframing Holocaust Testimony, he makes an interesting, distinct-- distinction between or among chronologically charted testimonies. On the one hand, the redemptive, cathartic version, a kind of dialectic with the interviewer, and then the third, what he refers to as these testimonies that contain, in Langer's words, frozen moments of anguish. And this is what Hauser called in his own self-effacing way, moments when, as he stated at the end of his interview, quote, \"I cannot collect myself sometimes so well. One is overcome.\" So I was interested in this on a more conceptual side, the storytelling that, the ruptures, the unsettled moments, not the usual digressions that we talk about in history writing, but as Shenker states, those both shattering and unifying impulses. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4321.0,4376.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So why did our, our subject, Isaac Hauser, why did he testify? First of all, the pursuit of justice. Here, I've had this slide up for a while. The list of names was rather astounding. You can, if you can read this German document, it's also an English translation of, of, of the killers and distinguishing between the Gestapo and the Schupo. Had, you know, had it really, had retained that information and deliberately during the war, documented that and then immediately went or, went to the Liberated Jews Commission in Munich to to provide that information. Secondly, he stated, \"the reason I do this interview only I would like to show that the Russians broke our spirit in a way there. Well, the Germans killed us physically.\" So there are a couple of occasions where he compares the Germans and the Russians and of course, in this period in the literature especially Timothy Snyder's work, among others, of this notion and the politicization of the double occupation, or the entanglement of the Soviet and Nazi systems. And it's, in his testimony, it became clear to me that this entanglement, that, that kind of characterization is maybe not entirely correct and certainly not this notion of a binary of a double occupation that can be compared as worse or better, both qualitatively or quantitatively. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4376.0,4463.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But instead, Eric, Isaac, he describes what he calls the kind of Russian cure and describing it very quickly, a moment as part of the the radicalization. And I guess Snyder would go back to 1933 to show how this kind of occurs over time. But the way that the Russians treated the, you know, in this first phase was so demoralizing, as he describes it. He says, I'm quoting now, \"We didn't, my reason for appearing today is I wanted to make sure, I don't know if I did, to stress the point that we should have resisted much more strongly than we did.\" We, as in the Jews. \"And we didn't because the Russians have conditioned it to us. The Russians, with their preceding occupation, have changed us into a bunch of low animals. I don't know, probably lower than rats, because I read that when rats are pushed towards the wall, they will rear up their legs and they will show their teeth and they will try to bite. The Russians have methods and the best proof is right in the Russian history of the last 40 years. The Germans were murderous. This is all well known. There's no secret to it. The Russian rule of calamity is not as well known. They didn't, they didn't liberate us. We survived because of some skill, of some good luck, of some happy coincidence. I hope the, I think the Russians helped kill us. My father was a very strong man. He was a building contractor. But they wrote, they broke his spirit. They came in. He wasn't permitted. They came into our house. He took our house. Every night, they came to try to arrest him. Every night, he slept on the roof because he, he wouldn't go up on the roof to look.\" Just describing this incredibly demoralizing period preceding the German, German occupation that ultimately created this situation. Frozen moments of anguish, quoting Langer here. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4463.0,4588.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in Hauser's reflections about the fate of his family, here he describes how his father at the moment of the onset of the war in '39, with the bombs falling, that his father just became so focused on his work, that was his identity. That was his his dignity. He says, \"my father was building a huge house for Poland. It was a huge house, a four story house in the city of Lemberg. He finished building it as the first bombs were falling in Lemberg in 1939. What is interesting for my father that he paid his debts. He was convinced his worth is as good..\" And then this is when he starts to get choked up and he stops, and he gets, he looks down, he starts to scratch his chin and then he kind of smiles a little bit. \"That his worth is as good...as gold. While the bombs were falling, he paid his debts.\" And then he describes how the Russians completely broke the spirit of his father. But there's a kind of critique of his father's reaction to the war and the first bombs falling. And a kind of irony there as far as his contin-- wanting to focus on work and not realizing the gravity of the situation. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4588.0,4664.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then secondly, when Eric is fleeing with with his wife to Boryslav, when they realize they need to get out of Lwów, he runs back during the pogrom and his family is sitting together, including his sister and his brothers, younger sister and brother. And he says, \"I went in, my family was there. I told them, 'disperse! There is something vicious going on.' And they said, 'no, we sit together. We feel better when we sit together.' And so they sat together. They all died together. I ran away and I hid out.\" And so is this kind of frustration that he seems to communicate about not being able to rescue his, you know, save his family and convince them to, to, to leave. And he doesn't see them again after that. And he assumes that they died in Janowska. And I'm going to show you how that kind of follows through into the rest of his biography, not knowing kind of their ultimate fate, really. I mean, what happened what happened to them after he left in those intervening years. I don't know if I have that much time. How much time do I have left? \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4664.0,4735.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we're a little bit over time, so if you can just, uh--\n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4735.0,4738.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK, then I'm going to, then I'm going to skip through this. I just want to point out here, we can't read all this. The other element of the testimony having to do with the memory of the senses and being attuned to expressions of a set, of sound, of sight, of smell, in fact, that he describes here, in his, one of his intentions was to show the total brutalization that occurred. So he has vivid descriptions of of the violence. And here is a German official who is kills, kills his Jewish boy, 12 to 13 year old boy who's already wounded. And the SS man says, oh, at some there's a discussion, should we leave this child in peace? The kid is afraid. And then the more brutal German says Solle lernen, cried the first one, he should learn. Now that is something he should learn. Solle lernen. And then Isaac Hauser says, it sounds in my ears and they kind of finish off that child. And similar kind of way of storytelling where he says, \"I have to say. I saw this. I saw this.\" And that's the other account on the right that has to do with the sexual violence, the rape of a Jewish woman in his office by a Jewish coworker. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4738.0,4815.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These are snapshots. Here are still screenshots of the documents that he presents during his interview that I wanted to pay attention to. And then lastly, this is a prisoner bowl that he brought to the Holocaust Museum. So I checked where Eric Hauser might have donated things or given testimony at other institutions. And this was given in 1990 after, after his 1985 testimony. Why he didn't have the bowl at this, you know, at this moment, but his papers, is a question I thought was interesting. But he ended up donating this bowl. It's a bowl he found when he went to the Janowska camp in search of his family. There's no, it didn't belong to his family, it's just kind of symbolic. It's what he has left of his family. So my concluding questions have to do with the Critical Edition and how do I bring this all together as far as both the performative, the kind of sensory aspects of his storytelling and the deep memory, and then the contextualization of that as a historian, in the more empirical side of that? And how far do I go with that without kind of diminishing his story? Or do I fill in his gaps of memory? And how far do I go with that in my introduction, in my annotation? And I open that. And with that and I invite your questions. I welcome them and looking forward to your reactions. Thank you very much. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4815.0,4899.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you Wendy, thank you so much for the talk. I'm going to present the next talk and then we'll take some questions at the end and please feel free to write them in the Q\u0026A box. So our next speaker is Jonathan Petropoulos, who is the John V. Croul Professor of European History at Claremont McKenna College in Southern California. Between 1998 and 2000, Dr. Petropolis, Professor Petropolis served as research director for Art and Culture Property on the Presidential Commission on Holocaust Assets in the United States, where he helped draft the report Restitution and Plunder: the U.S. and Holocaust Victims' Assets. He also provided expert testimony to the Select Committee on cultural media-- Culture, Media and Sports in the UK House of Commons and tp the Banking and Finance Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives regarding these issues. He's the author of multiple books, which you can read about on his profile page on our website. Among them, most recently, Göring's Man in Paris: The Story of a Nazi Art Plunderer and his World, which was published by Yale University Press. And I'll let you speak. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4899.0,4966.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Gil, for that very gracious introduction. And thanks to Stephen Naron and Timothy Snyder, Christy Bailey-Tomecek, and all the folks at the Fortunoff Video Testimony Archive, it's been, it was a wonderful semester on sabbatical. Such an honor. So I'm going to talk about Sydney Bruskin. And I would mention I selected him because of my next project. I'm writing a book along with Wendy Lower about 1945 and war's end, and what happens to some of the Nazi leaders and, and Sydney Bruskin's story fit into that that project. I had considered doing a testimony involving Nazi looted art, it's been my specialty. But I found that Bruskin's testimony was very rich and took me in a direction I wanted to go. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=4966.0,5015.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Bruskin is an interesting figure. He's a son of Jewish immigrants. He's a New Haven lad, a Yale graduate, a member of the counterintelligence corps that arrested French collaborators and Nazi war criminals. He was a liberator of a concentration camp and a person whose wartime experiences shaped his faith and his identity. Bruskin was interviewed in 1994, which was rather early for interviewing veterans. Saving Private Ryan, the film, came along in 1998 and that led to a kind of collective project to interview the greatest generation. Congress passed a bill starting an interview, a federal project to interview veterans, and in the first 10 years they interviewed over 65,000 but Bruskin's is earlier. And, but it does fit into that trope of, of, of veterans interviews. And I should also mention that I found in the Yale University archives an interview that Bruskin did nine years later in 2003 as part of a New Haven oral history project. And he was interviewed by a local high school student and reflected on his years growing up in New Haven. And that was useful for the first part of the annotation. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5015.0,5092.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So as I mentioned, Bruskin was the son of immigrants. His father and mother arrived in 1907 and 1909, respectively, from Russia. And his father was a barber. His mother was a dressmaker. And, and so Bruskin is part of a broader immigration process or pattern. You know, between 1881 and 1914, over 1.5 million Russian Jews fled persecution in czarist Russia. As you probably know that there were pogroms in the early 1880s, and then between 1903 and 1906. And scholars say generally that the early pogroms didn't precipitate so much immigration, but the 1903 to 1906 ones did. And there's one scholar, Yannay Spitzer, who wrote, \"Jewish migration from the Russian Empire to the United States in the years 1881 to 1914 was one of the most intense mass population movements in history. Over a single generation, more than a quarter of Jewish Russian, of the Jewish Russian population was resettled oversea, seas. The Russian empire was home to some 5.3 million Jews in 1897, approximately half of the world's Jewry.\" So I think to see Bruskin as part of that process was for me, rather, rather interesting. Also the, let's see if we get this. The, the assimilation in New Haven and what it said about the, the local history of New Haven was to me very interesting. As many of you know, in New Haven, it was called Copper City because of the important trades in heavy machinery and manufacturing. And so you see these immigrants come in and it's part of the industrial revolution. And so that's the story of assimilation to me, which was quite interesting. Bruskin went to Hillhouse High School, still there, but it's changed its demographic markedly. And he, he was raised in a very secular Jewish family. And I'll talk about that a little bit more towards the end of my presentation. Very smart. Very clever. And he was admitted to Yale and he matriculated from 1932 to 1936. And of course this was a period with numerus clausus. In 1935, Yale accepted 76 applicants from a pool of 501. About 200 of those applicants were Jewish. Five got in, right, and there was a quote from a dean at the time, Dean Milton Winternitz, and he said, \"Never admit more than five Jews. Take only two Italian Catholics and take no blacks at all.\" And this continued through the 1960s. This is quite well known. There was a limit, a quota of about 10 percent. Dan Oren, 1979 Yale graduate, wrote a book that's been well recognized, Joining the Club. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5092.0,5261.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so Sydney Bruskin embodied this, right. He, he actually lived at home. Jews and Christians at Yale were segregated until 1948 and he didn't have enough money to live on campus. So he lived at home and he was socially isolated in this way. And it was very interesting with his experiences there. I love the story of the first time he had a ham sandwich. \"I was teased into it because I wasn't supposed to, but I could see some of the guys were, some of the Jewish boys were eating ham sandwiches. So I said, 'all right, here it goes.' I took it. And I said, oh, boy, I'm probably going to drop dead, but I survived.\" But more important, with less levity, he noted, \"we Jewish boys accepted the fact that there was a sort of, we were sort of outcasts, not exactly outcasts, but we were at the at the edge. We accepted that and we didn't do anything about it. We didn't protest.\". \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5261.0,5318.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Bruskin at Yale, he mentored in, majored in French languages, French and other romance languages, Italian. He had some German. He learned some Yiddish later on. And I found this to be very interesting, interesting. It reminded me of what George Steiner said. George Steiner was born in 1929 to Viennese parents who had left Austria and gone to Paris, and his father, who had raised the family, the children, multilingual, said that he believed Jews were endangered guests wherever they went, and equipped his children with languages. In the Steiner household, it was German, French and English. But it wasn't clear with Bruskin if this was one of the things he was thinking about, that this would be helpful. But he loved these languages and it proved important in his subsequent, in subsequent developments. When he graduated in 1936, he didn't have good job prospects in the Depression, but through complicated circumstances he stumbled into a bike business. Interesting. He could not even ride a bike. And I wondered about that, why he couldn't. But he was able to open a shop on Chapel Street and I went to look for the for the shop, his bicycle shop, and I couldn't find it. A little bit more research, I realized what had happened. It was torn down in 1961 and it was replaced by the, the school, the Yale School of Architecture, that controversial building, the brutalist architecture. Architectural historian Elizabeth Mills of Brown had said \"This building has probably caused more, fewer than any other American architectural work of the mid 20th century, a storm center from the start, praised as the prophet of a new architecture, damned as willful and egocentric, dogged by misadventure, victim of arson, student vandalism, remodeling and endless complaint. The A and A building has a bitter and embattled career. So that's what happened to Sydney Bruskin's bike shop. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5318.0,5434.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He had married and, and so he was not immediately drafted. And I talk a little bit about the, about conscription, the first peacetime conscription in American history in 1940. He had a daughter and that also delayed his induction into the military. But by 1943 he was, he was drafted, went through basic training at Camp Shelby, Fort Shelby down in Mississippi and then at Fort Devens up in Massachusetts. And then he was shipped to England not knowing exactly what he was going to do. And here is Sydney Bruskin as a, as a private shortly after finishing. basic training and such. And in the U.K., the counterintelligence corps was looking for individuals with language skills. There was a dire shortage of individuals who could speak European languages. And so Bruskin had his opportunity with his language skills. And so he became a member of the counterintelligence corps of the 80th division. And he started-- well, he arrived at, in France on D-Day plus 30 at Omaha Beach, right, so one month after D-Day in early July 19, 1944. And he was in his cohort, were given lists of Nazi officials and their job was to go search for them. And the lists were published after the war. And when I was writing Göring's Man in Paris about Bruno Lohse, this was part of the list. Just to give you a sense, they had a thick volume of high ranking Nazis, including the Ortsgruppenleiter, the local officials, and, and they would go pursue, pursue the Nazis. They started off actually with French collaborators. And that was kind of a training for Bruskin as he would learn to interrogate informants and to, to work with local resistance and to ply his trade. But he really became much more aggressive when they went into Germany and Austria later on. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5434.0,5552.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, and probably the high point for Bruskin, certainly was a high point in terms of hunting for Nazis, was in Altaussee, a small town in the Salzkammergut. And I had spent quite a bit of time in Altaussee myself. It's right where the US zone is here. It's not too far from Salzburg, but it's in the middle of the Austrian Alps there. And Altaussee had been a repository for artworks, including Hitler's collection, over 4,500 pictures in the Führermuseum were there, and many other looted works. There had been drama there at war's end as the local Gauleiter Eigruber had ordered bombs to be placed in the entrance to the mine, and it took an act of resistance, the local miners to, to, to pull them out and defuse the bombs. And here they are with some American soldiers who have come in, the first to arrive. And of course, there was a long process of evacuating the mines. In the Monuments Men film, they do it in one afternoon and in fact, it took them four months to do so. The roads were impassable. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5552.0,5613.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in Altaussee though, besides looted artworks, one found an array of high ranking Nazis, from Ernst Kaltenbrunner, to Adolf Eichmann, to Otto Skorzeny, August Eigruber the Gauleiter was there. Hugo Jury, Franz Stangl was there, the Sobibor/Treblinka camp commander, Anton Burger, the head of-- you get the point. It was just filthy with Nazis. And so that's where, where Bruskin and his partner Robert Matteson arrived. And I should also mention, I had gone and found old Nazis in Altaussee too, in the 1990s and early 2000s. I had interviewed Wilhem Höttl and some others there. So it's still a place that has a brown past, if you will. So Bruskin, he played a key role in arresting Eigruber the Gauleiter and specifically Eigruber's wife. That was Bruskin alone. But, and this is, this is, this is Bruskin in his interview to the left, I know it is very blurry, it's a screenshot, but gives you a sense how they were just finding, uh, local facilities and turning them into prisons and arresting these, these people. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5613.0,5680.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The highlight of his activity and hunting for Nazis was arresting Ernst Kaltenbrunner, the head of the Reich Security Main Office, and Kaltenbrunner had a villa there. I mentioned earlier it was filled with treasure. Over sixty kilos of gold was found there. Most of it disappeared. But he took flight as the Americans arrived and he went into the deep wilderness there, up into the Alps. And, and reports came in that, that Kaltenbrunner was probably up there in the, in the hinterlands. And so Robert Matteson, Bruskin's partner took, partner took the lead. He was very gung ho, if you will, and he put on Austrian hunting gear, attire. He found some local Austrians who were, had been in the Wehrmacht, but were now prepared to help. And along with some American GIs, they hiked all night for seven hours over snow and ice and found Kaltenbrunner and his adjutant, Major Scheidler, in this, this hut there. And it was a very tense standoff, but they managed to arrest Kaltenbrunner without, without firing shots. He claimed to be a physician and to be someone else. Bruskin was back with Kaltenbrunner's mistress, an aristocrat who had just given birth to twins. Kaltenbrunner's twins, and, and Scheidler's wife was also there. So when they marched these two people back into Altaussee and Bruskin had the women there, he was keeping them under, under guard. They ran to their, to their romantic partners and they embraced them, so that was the form of identification with the, with the women showing who they actually were. And it was interesting how, how this was such a high point in Bruskin's career, for Matteson too, he wrote a book about arresting Kaltenbrunner and would lecture, and, and they, they, they kept souvenirs, if you will, trophies from their experience. Matteson kept the identity badge of Kaltenbrunner and Arthur Scheidler's went to Bruskin, which he still had, and he was holding up as a symbol. He also brought back Scheidler rifle, which he sold in the 1990s for four hundred dollars. And that was kind of interesting in its way. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5680.0,5810.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also, besides arresting Kaltenbrunner and Eigruber and some of these others, Bruskin went to Ebensee. Right. And this is a photo that he took upon arrival. And Ebensee is a subcamp of Mauthausen. It, it really came into existence about halfway through the war, in 1943. It held about 28,000 male inmates and about 11,000 of them had died in the camp. And Bruskin's testimony is interesting here, right. He says, \"On our way, Bob Matteson picked me up in Kempten, Bavaria--\" Actually Baden Württemberg, but, \"and we were going on down to, to Altaussee. On the way, we had heard that there was a concentration camp, Ebensee, which was not far from Altaussee, so we drove there. Well, we got there, there were-- Bob wrote a book and I have at home, a sort of pamphlet-- he claims that we broke the lock to get in there. I say definitely, I say that we were among the first troops there. I remember going through this gate and there were a few soldiers there, very few.\" So whether Bob Matteson broke the gate to get into Ebensee or not, we're not quite sure. But, you know, this was the, the scene that Bruskin and Matteson encountered there as liberators. And there's some fascinating accounts of the liberation there as the Americans, well, subsequent to Bruskin and Mattsson arriving, the American army arrived in Panzers and they drove in. And the discussion was how the Americans were looking at the inmates as if they came from a different planet, that they were hardly recognizable. And same with inmates looking at the Americans. Some of the inmates tried to climb up on the Panzers, on the tanks, and the Americans gently but firmly pushed them down and said, no, we have to keep away. They brought up one or two prisoners and gave them Lucky Strikes and said, tell us what's going on here. A couple who could speak English and they were getting a sense of what happened. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5810.0,5926.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was an interesting episode when they went, found the kitchen there, that the cook there wanted to give the American liberators some of, some food and served them the soup. And the Americans didn't, didn't want to do so. And they were told that it would be rude not to accept this act of generosity. So they were given bowls and they took a couple of soup spoons of the, of the broth. And of course, they said it tasted wretched. It was terrible. But this very interesting moment of, of encounter between the American liberators and the camp inmates, quite a few of them died from the refeeding syndrome that I think you all know about there. So there's an interesting moment with Bruskin as he, as he experiences this, this concentration camp. There was a crematorium there and above the crematorium was this sign. It was a little poem about the bodies wanting to be burned and returning to nature. And Bruskin ordered an inmate he said was a Kapo who was tall and well-fed to tear it, to bring down the sign. And, and he did. And Bruskin carried the sign all the way back to America. And he put this notation on his copy. He donated the originals to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. But this was another war trophy. Right? The crematorium sign that, that he, that he brought that back. And I thought that was interesting what he was carrying all over Europe for the next, next six months. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=5926.0,6011.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eventually, Bruskin went to Nuremberg and he was part of the team of interpreters that worked there. His German was not good enough for him to be an interpreter for Kaltenbrunner, for a major war criminal, but, criminal. But he was part of the broader interrogation process and then came home in late 1940, 45, early on in the Nuremberg trials. This was another photograph that he made in a Jewish cemetery. And he captures himself there. And one thing that I found was really striking about this testimony, well, this quotation here. Right. \"But it changed my whole outlook,\" going to Europe and hunting Nazis and liberating Ebensee, \"on everything. I had never had much of a Jewish upbringing. We never belonged to a synagogue. I didn't have a bar mitzvah and so forth. But that changed completely. No, no. I went back to my roots after seeing particularly the, the camp and the women in Ludwigshafen and so forth.\" He had seen victims in Ludwigshafen on Lake Konstanz as well. \"When I came back, I decided that I was going to become a Jew boy again. I didn't know how to start. And then I got a letter from the Lodge B'nai B'rith inviting me to a breakfast. And any group that approached me at that point, they were going to get me. I signed up right away because I figure this way I could identify myself as Jewish.\" And with, Sydney Bruskin and looking for what happened to him after the war. He shows up in the New Haven and in the Hamden Jewish communities, and he's, he's participated in dinners and other kind of community events and such. And, and Wendy and I, we went and found Sydney Bruskin's graves, gravestone, his last resting place in the Mishkan Israel cemetery there. So it was interesting to see someone who had focused so much early on in assimilation and being an American and going to Yale, and then the experience of the war, which shaped him, so, so, so profoundly. So. So, yes. So mine is still very much a work in progress. I also hope to find relatives of Sydney Bruskin and I was calling Bruskins around the country. We can see from this gravestone behind that he has children and grandchildren, but I have yet to to find them. So I'm going to continue to work on my testimony in the coming weeks and months. That will be done this summer. But hopefully I can find some family members and get that perspective as well. So thank you for your attention. I appreciate it. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6011.0,6167.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much. Fascinating talking, fascinating to talk to you. I'm going to start actually reading out the first question and please, everyone, please write to us with your questions for Professor Lower, Professor Petropoulos. So, Lawrence Langer asks, he writes here, \"for the sake of accuracy, memory of the senses is Charlotte Delbo's language, which I borrowed. My question to Wendy is, is anything lost from the impact of the personal ordeal of the survivor by such extensive contextualization? This is a question from a non historian, not a criticism.\" \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6167.0,6202.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I think, you know, I'd be curious to hear from others on this as well, on how to think about, you know, is there a balance to be achieved or aware of? It just, it just struck me as I was embarking on the critical edition and looking at the typical kinds of introductions. And I introduced a diary that I published years ago as well. The, as an historian, I have this compulsion. I have a routine of, as well, of trying to check the facts and fill out the history and, and tell the story of the Holocaust and Boryslav and tell the story of the Holocaust and Galicia. But that kind of, adding that kind of apparatus, that kind of either, however you want to put it, grounding or introduction, you know, at what point does that then diminish the power of the story of, of the survivor, as you put it, the impact of that? Because that's the subjectivity of that. And the, and those frozen moments of anguish, for instance, in and of themselves are so, so revealing. So I, that's, I don't have really a direct answer to your question, because as I concluded, you know, how do we deal with annotation and kind of traumatic autobiographies that contain these ruptures and unsettled moments? Do we fill in those gaps? Do we add layers of...do we add to the layers of personal memory, another layer of official history and how much is, is useful and illuminating and supportive of, of that testimony, of that survivors, not diminishing that survivors voice? So, I mean, I'd like to hear from Gil and some of the other participants on this issue if they've thought about it in any way. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6202.0,6318.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I'm going to actually tie this to maybe something--if people want to ask any additional questions here, but I wondered if you want to tie this a little bit about a question I received for Jonathan, also someone just wrote me. But if, if you could maybe discuss this and kind of discuss also your previous work on looted art in relation to this, and just see this question about how does this relate to Fortunoff testimonies? And you can see if any of the Fortunoff testimonies add to that in some way. It's one of the questions.\n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6318.0,6352.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this is for me? \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6352.0,6354.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and I'll connect also to Wendys question in a minute. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6354.0,6358.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, no, I'm glad that the question was posed because it goes back to the process by which I arrived at Sydney Bruskin and, you know I looked through the Fortunoff Archives for looted art and any references of art. And it was striking how art came up frequently as part of people's lives. And, and some of the individuals had been artists or had, they had family members who were artists, they had art collections. And, and what I, what I took away from reading those testimonies was something I had sensed before and, you know, read about before, but it was really palpable in the testimonies, is how art is different from most kinds of assets and that it's so personal, it's such a part of people's lives. And, and so, you know, people live with artworks in proximity that are passed down from generation to generation. And so I did see that come to life as people talked about family portraits that were missing and collections that had disappeared. And so to see that animated and such was striking, you know, with, with Sydney Bruskin, you know, the objects that he brought back and the way he treated them. And I think Wendy talked about these too, what, what Hauser kept, you know, they had a kind of a special power. They were talismans. And the fact that he had held onto Major Scheidler's identification badge for 50 years was you know, it was interesting and, and I think representative, but, but it was almost-- Bruskin sense a kind of evilness that was there. And this was almost something magical that he had that, wasn't going to protect him, but it had a certain aura to it and a quality and he was fascinated with it. So I think this notion about objects and auras is really, really interesting to me and connects both then Nazi memorabilia objects and the looted artworks that people lived with. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6358.0,6478.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And back to what Wendy said, and I'll maybe open it also if you have other questions, but also to Julie and Chad even, because I think it's a great question, I'm thinking about what does it mean to, is there at all, is there a risk there of over contextualizing, if there's too extensive contextualizing, what does that mean for the personal experience of the survivor? Right. Because we use the the, the, the contextualization Zisl to put the survivor in a different story than the one that he or she may be wanting to tell. So I'm wondering also if there's something that Chad and Julie, or Jonathan, you also want to address how that, that tension. Something that you might think about or deal with in the way you're approaching testimonies. \n\nCHAD GIBBS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6478.0,6523.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know how to answer this yet, but I think there's, there's one interesting book I read recently and reviewed that might offer some tips that Eva Noack-Mosse's recently published memoir of The Last Days of Theresienstadt in that it's, it's a memoir that she wrote, you might think of it as a diary that she wrote as, as she was in Theresienstadt. And then she went back and tried to mediate her own diary. And the press attempted to place all of her and her postwar editions, all of her additions to the book that were not contemporaneous. They tried to put all of those in italics. But if you go through it with a fine tooth comb, you realize there's a lot more mediation there than they were able to get in the italics. And it's kind of just...It's a fascinating book. It's almost like it presupposes these edited testimonies, right? Because it's, it's the survivor doing it themselves. It's the, it's the individual who experienced this, trying to mediate their own early testimony of those events and... It's difficult to pick apart, really difficult to pick apart what they knew at the time and what they didn't, but fascinating in the attempt at least. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6523.0,6612.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you raise an interesting point about survivors themselves and, you know, the earlier approach in reading these and listening to these testimonies was more historical. Really, I think the Fortunoff, you know, made huge strides in shifting attention to the stories of suffering and of themselves and to study the trauma and to study, to listen to those voices in of themselves and the subjectivity of them. But then it's yes, you have the other phenomenon of the survivor who adds his or her own contextualization and pulls out history books while they're narrating their own autobiography and don't get it right all the time or kind of, you know, they don't tell us their own personal stories. They tell us kind of what is kind of common, common memory versus their own deeper memories. So it can happen both by scholars as well as by the survivors themselves. \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6612.0,6667.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I mean, when, when looking at a testimony, I'm reminded of something that one of my professors actually in England said to me and he said historians, you know, we engage in lumping and splitting and into with testimonies, I, you know, clearly we want something that's representative and we can, you know, gain insight into, into, you know, events that affected many more people. But we also want to do the splitting and preserve what is unique in the individual, right, and, and to have a voice and have an experience that is exceptional. So it's always that balancing act and, between representativeness and uniqueness in terms of the testimony. But just to add that in terms of everything else that was said that, that I very much agree with. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6667.0,6714.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, sometimes the over contextualization is done, if it's not a survivor testimony, this is, you're going to think this is kind of a strange comparison. But think about the fact that the writings of perpetrators are often heavily contextualized by scholars because we, you know, we want to, in a way diminish the impact and the resonance of that voice. So a kind of, there's a decision that's made and that kind of academic research decision empirical-- \n\nJONATHAN PETROPOULOS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6714.0,6752.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She dropped. Oh, we lost her. Oh. \n\nGIL RUBIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6752.0,6758.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, OK, well, she'll come in. Yeah, I was I was just thinking about the name, the name just escaped my mind, which I shouldn't. But the book by another professor here at Yale about...the image of the genocide survivor is the, Stephen is probably going to help me recover the name, the historical image of the survivor of genocide as kind of a general, where something represented the general victim in the postwar period looking for that, the name of the book that's going to come back in a minute. But just generally how, right, that experience has, has become kind of a cultural experience, rather their unique and personal experience. I think this is something that touched what Wendy just said. \n\nSTEPHEN NARON","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6758.0,6804.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would, I would also note that the idea behind the Critical Edition series is not exclusively this, aimed at sort of deep contextualization. I mean, that's a part of the work, the annotation, but it's also about seeing a testimony through the eyes of the individual scholar who is working with it. Right. Sort of. And that's, that's an understanding that, that's your, this is your view of the value significance of this testimony for historiographical questions. It's not the only meaning this, this testimony has. It's through the eyes of you as the, as the scholar. And I would also note that, yeah, I think this is a really, this is something that we haven't discussed enough. It's, it's still sort of new for us. But in the end, the, the original document, the sort of frozen moments of anguish, et cetera, are in the audiovisual recording. And they're not, they're not, I think, made less powerful by this, this textual contextualization. Right. It's another layer. But I don't think it needs to be seen as a sort of a dangerous layer that could remove the power of the subjectivity of the testimony. That's my hope. \n\nWENDY LOWER","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850#t=6804.0,6892.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/24/collection_resources/52436/file/124850/transcript/32990/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. No, it's just something to be aware of, you know, something to kind of just, just think about, because there is this impulse academically to add the layers, add the knowledge, do the empirical work, especially on the part of an historian, and to really kind of, you know, present that in a way and kind of show that off as advances in knowledge. Right. But the layering, the layering, the layering, again, that potential exists there. 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