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He relates his deportation in 1943 to Mielec, where he worked in the Heinkel airplane factory; the evacuation of the camp in 1944 and his transfer to Wieliczka, then Auschwitz; and being taken from there to Flossenbürg. He speaks of his subsequent transfer to the subcamps of Litoměřice and Hersbruck before being sent back to Flossenbürg; the evacuation of Flossenbürg in April 1945; air raids by the United States Air Force; his escape from the convoy; and his liberation the next day, when he was given, and refused, the opportunity for revenge. Mr. K. also discusses his emigration to the United States; the sense of rebirth he felt there; and his involvement in passing on the lessons of the Holocaust to others. (Abstract)","This testimony is open with permission. (Conditions Governing Access)","Copyright has been transferred to the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. Use of this testimony requires permission of the Fortunoff Video Archive. 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He speaks of his subsequent transfer to the subcamps of Litoměřice and Hersbruck before being sent back to Flossenbürg; the evacuation of Flossenbürg in April 1945; air raids by the United States Air Force; his escape from the convoy; and his liberation the next day, when he was given, and refused, the opportunity for revenge. Mr. K. also discusses his emigration to the United States; the sense of rebirth he felt there; and his involvement in passing on the lessons of the Holocaust to others.","This testimony is open with permission.","Copyright has been transferred to the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. 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Just a little piece. Just a small piece, that's all I need just to keep this on when you photograph it. Oh, no, that's too big. That's too big, because I want to be able remove it after we're done. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=2.1,13.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: We have the previous two periods, one before the suppression and one-- and I think the way you speak about it is very good. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=13.1,23.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" CREW: Pardon? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=23.11,23.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: The way you speak about those two periods is very different. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=23.99,27.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" CREW: Which two periods are you speaking about? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=27.47,28.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Before the separation and after. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=28.41,34.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" CREW: OK. We are rolling, and we're ready to go. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=34.59,50.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: I'm going to start it off with the question. 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Introduce yourself. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=59.9,63.21"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Any time? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=63.21,64.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" LAUREL VLOCK: Yes, now. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=64.26,65.22"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: We're ready now? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=65.22,66.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" LAUREL VLOCK: Yes. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=66.03,66.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" MALE SPEAKER 2: Wait just a minute. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=66.62,68.27"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" LAUREL VLOCK: Oh, sorry. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=68.27,71.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Now you can go. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=71.67,73.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" LAUREL VLOCK: Yes, your name and where-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=73.62,75.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: My name is Joseph Korzenik. I am 52 years old. I'm married, and I have two children, one grandchild. And I live in West Hartford, Connecticut. I've lived in this area since 1946. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=75.08,91.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I arrived here from Germany. Prior to that, I lived in Poland, where I was born in a small town in Southern Poland, which is named Gorlice. It was, at that time, in the Krakov district near the Czechoslovakian border. My family consisted of my parents, two sisters, an adopted sister, and myself. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=91.35,126.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Prior to the War, we were what you would call-- considered living comfortably. My father was in business, and so was my mother. And my sisters were educated in the gymnasium. And I was too young to go to the gymnasium yet. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=126.97,151.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" In 1939, September 1, when the Germans occupied our town within a few days after the War broke out, we immediately began to feel the pressure of the occupation forces on the Jewish population. Shortly after the occupation by the Germans, the Jewish High Holidays came about, and we were not allowed to go to the synagogue. We were not allowed to pray. We were not allowed to gather more than three people at first. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=151.94,194.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" The synagogues were destroyed. Torahs were burned. Prayer books were burned. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=194.48,206.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" We immediately began to feel the oppressor's boot. Then there began a succession of edicts. Some of them were, of the nature of it, every Jew over the age of 12 had to register for work. And we had to work three days for the Germans. In my case, I worked six days, because three days I worked my father. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=206.81,239.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" After that, the edict came out that every Jew had to wear the Star of David on a white band on the outside garment at all times. Failure to do so was punishable by death. Many of our people were executed for failure to wearing a-- to wear the Star of David band. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=239.47,264.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: Did you forget it, or purposefully? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=264.06,266.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Forget it. It was basically an oversight. That didn't matter though. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=266.41,273.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Then came about the edict of hostages. 10 Jewish men were named as hostages. And their names were posted on placards are all over town. Should anything happen to a German, those 10 men would be executed. That was, I think, one of the most difficult edicts to live with. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=273.01,300.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" During all this time, rations were distributed to people whose family members worked for the Germans. In my case, I was bringing in the rations-- those ration cards-- because I worked for the Germans all the time. And the work varied from building roads, cleaning barracks or police stations, chopping wood, working on dams on the river, removing dead bodies from the Gestapo building, burying them. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=300.28,343.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: As boy of 13 or 14, what was it like for you to remove dead bodies from the Gestapo building? What do you think-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=343.61,350.91"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: It was a very-- I would like to say-- difficult experience. I recall, in the beginning, I couldn't look at the bodies. I would lift a man by his feet or by his head, but I wouldn't look at him. But after a while, one becomes immune. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=350.91,376.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" This was going on until 1942. But I recall, distinctly, the winter of 1941 and '42. In that winter, they began to kill Jews at random in the street. In our town, there were approximately half a dozen Gestapo men. But these men had complete control over the entire Jewish population. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=376.6,410.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: How big? Of how many? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=410.94,413.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Approximately 4,000 Jews of a population of 8,000. Our community-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=413.82,422.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: They had complete control in-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=422.06,424.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: Complete control in every respect. They knew, because of the hostage system, nothing would happen to them. Now, this, perhaps, requires a little bit more elaboration, which I'd like to do by way of illustrating. Assuming, that a German was abusing my father, now, my anger could be vented by attacking this German, doing harm to him, perhaps. But the punishment that would be meted out to me would be negligible compared to the consequences knowing that 10 innocent men would be executed because of my foolish act. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=424.18,478.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" This, perhaps, is also one of the reasons why the majority of the people in the free world cannot comprehend why 6 million people could allow themselves to be led to the slaughter like sheep without lifting a finger in their defense. It is very difficult to raise a finger against the machine gun. It is also very difficult to live knowing that, because of my foolish act, 10 men have been executed. And there are widows and orphans. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=478.68,531.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, this is something that I don't know if it's been said before, but it needs to be said. But we truly were a people of the Book. We believed in God. And we believed that if we conduct ourselves as decent people, we will be allowed to lead a normal life. But we were wrong, as history has proven. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=531.82,566.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" The life in the ghetto for me, personally, was more difficult to endure than in the concentration camps or the slave labor camps. Because, in the ghetto, I was with my family, and there was the constant fear of something happening to my family. We were all a close-knit family. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=566.6,600.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" It's strange, but yesterday, I made a list of members of our family. In 1939, there were 117 people of our family. In 1945, 11 survived. Out of these 11, 2 survived as non-Jews and Aryan papers. 5 survived in Russia, never having been under the German occupation. And 4 of us survived the concentration camps. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=600.56,661.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" You asked me a question, at the age of 12 or 13 and 14 and so on-- I'm not a psychiatrist. I cannot explain the capacities of a person at different stages of his lifetime. But I do know that most of our survivors who did survive were within that category of age group. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=661.16,692.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I recall one particular incident when I worked in the wood processing plant outside of our town. And while I was working in the yard, there was this Polish worker-- a young fellow, also-- and he was sort of mocking me. Why do we work the way we do? They're going to kill us anyway. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=692.26,718.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, this was early. This must have been early '42, I think. And he was telling us how he participated with a group of Polish workers in a town-- neighboring town where they dug a grave, a large pit. And they witnessed an execution of Jewish people, approximately 900 people all lined up in three lines-- men, women, and children-- and were told to undress, and then they were machine gunned. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=718.52,759.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And he proceeded to explain to me, but he was sort of relishing the way he was explaining this to me, as though he were enjoying this act that, when they were covering the pit with the earth, there were some people who were still alive. That had a devastating effect on me. And I began to have nightmares about mass executions. But I was afraid to tell my parents about it. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=759.59,791.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" At one time, there was-- when I came back from work-- there was a tremendous amount of activity by the German police. And they were all different segments of the police departments. And they were all converging on the Gestapo building, which was in our neighborhood a few houses down from my home. Then, I began to realize that an action is going to take place. And that was when I told my parents what this Polish fellow had told me. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=791.71,826.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" So my father decided that it's no use to wait for them to come after us. And we ran into-- across the river into the non-Jewish section of our town. And we hid in the hay loft over a barn. And there, we were from Thursday evening until Sunday morning. And we could hear a continuous volley of shootings coming from the direction of our town. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=826.24,859.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" On that Saturday, we could hear a truck with Ukrainian soldiers coming into this particular courtyard where the barns were. And they started the systematic search of every barn and hayloft. We were lucky we hid in the hay, and they didn't spot us. But we did see through the cracks in the wall a family across the street was executed. They were found hiding. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=859.47,895.07"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" By Sunday morning-- this was already around August, I would say August 1942-- that general time-- and by Sunday morning, my father came down and asked the fellow who came to feed the horses what has happened to the Jewish people. And he explained to him that all the Jews were quarantined in a large shoe factory that was abandoned. And there were only a few families-- or approximately 100 in total-- who were left in one town-- excuse me, in one street. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=895.07,939.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And then, we decided that, since we are hungry and there was no way-- we were already exposed to this man anyway, so our safety was already in question-- so we decided-- we decided-- our father decided to take us to that town. And we joined some of the Sunday morning Christian worshippers, and we went to that town. And there, we found my mother's brother and his family who were among that group. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=939.18,969.25"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And we also found out that if one member of the family has a stamp on his work papers, he will be allowed to retain the rest of his family. That evening, when the group that I was working with was escorted back onto that street, the German-- he was actually a Volksdeutsche, which is they were Polish citizens of German ancestry, and they were given special rights once the Germans occupied Poland-- so he was the head of the guard. And I know him because a while back, I did him a favor-- favor-- he was going on vacation, and he was carrying a heavy suitcase. So I saw him carry it across the yard, so I ran and grabbed it from him. And he sort of liked me, because I took the initiative to carry his suitcase for him. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=969.25,1022.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" So I told him what our position was. And he took my work papers, and he took them to the Gestapo. And he did bring me the stamp the next morning. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1022.55,1031.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And I went to work feeling confident that my family will be secure. But that was not to be. That same evening, when I came back from work, my family was gone. And I found out from a policeman-- a Jewish policeman who escorted them out of that street to the quarantine area-- that, as they were approaching, the Germans were executing Jews at random. So my father grabbed my mother and sister, and they ran away from the group. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1031.53,1067.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And my father was born and raised in a village. So they ran to that village, where most of the people knew him and grew up with them-- not only grew up with him, but they also served in the First World War in the Austrian army. So they were more than just casual friends or acquaintances. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1067.18,1085.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And these people would not hide them. They would not even allow them to hide in their fields for fear. So they said that the Germans will take punitive actions against them. This is an area that, for Polish Jew, is very important for a few Polish people who took risks to save a Jew. The preponderant majority did not-- not only did not take steps to hide us, but were active in turning us in, if not torturing us by themselves. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1085.37,1154.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" After the War, I found out about a cousin of mine who grew up in that same village where my father was born. He did not go into the camp. He did not go into the ghetto. He lived off the fields. And a neighbor of his caught him and brought him to the Gestapo on a rope like a calf to be shot. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1154.51,1178.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" This can be multiplied manyfold. Unfortunately, those deeds are not documented, because there are no survivors. And the Polish people don't talk about it. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1178.23,1195.25"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I ask a question now, as a survivor, having studied and lectured on this subject, why was a country like Denmark-- Christians-- with the Jewish people-- Christians haven't taken upon themselves to save-- something like 95% or upward of that number of the Jewish population-- and only a couple hundred kilometers to the east, Christians too, were cooperating with the Germans to annihilate us. I may sound bitter. I am. Because I was raised with the belief, I am my brother's keeper. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1195.25,1252.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And I also know of the quality of the Jewish population in Poland prior to 1939. We were approximately 10% of the total population. We were a very active, positive, contributing force for the Polish nation. That Polish nation did not back us up, did not protect this. In studying this period, I come to the conclusion that the Roman Catholic church should stand indicted for having conspired with the Germans to annihilate the Polish population. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1252.75,1307.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I gave you an account of 117 members of one family. There are entire towns and villages that not a single survivor made it. There's nobody to speak for those people. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1307.19,1343.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I found, after the War-- I'm jumping all over the place, but this is important. I think it's relative. When I went back to Poland after the War to find out if any of members of my family have survived, I was in a train of repatriates. As we left the Polish border going towards Katowice, which was the next main town, I heard a group of Polish people talking amongst themselves saying something to the effect, well, whatever Hitler did, at least we're grateful to him for having solved the Jewish problem for us. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1343.89,1382.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, this is after the War. This is after what has happened to our people. This is the kind of education these people were harboring. And that education came down from the pulpit. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1382.62,1400.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" When we lived amongst these people before 1939, we knew that they hated us because, in Poland, there was nothing hidden. Ever since I could remember as a child, going to school, I would see on the street-- be it on a fence, or on a building of a Jewish home, or front of a Jewish store, or on the sidewalk-- there were signs-- you call the graffiti here today-- signs all over the place, Jew go to Palestine. You filthy Jew, we don't want you in Poland. This is the kind of a democracy we found ourselves living in. Poland, supposedly, was a democracy from 1918 to 1939. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1400.53,1451.17"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" However, Poland, at that time, was governed by Church and State. The Church was extremely influential. Kids I grew up with who hated me not because I was different than they were, not because I was built differently, or I spoke Polish differently than they did, or I was a better or worse student than they were-- they hated me only because they were told that I am a Jew. And they such-- as such, I'm not part of the establishment. I do not have a right to live amongst these people, because the Church told them that I am an infidel. I have not accepted Christ. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1451.17,1505.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And because of that, these same Polish people, I feel, were injected with a venom of hate. That venom of hate still courses through these people's veins today, because I still have contact with polish people. And they hate. They don't know why. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1505.38,1526.74"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I feel, perhaps, I found the answer. As children, they were taught to hate the Jew. There's no more Jew in Poland to hate. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1526.74,1537.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I'm sure there will be some professional psychiatrists, psychologists, people in the field who will agree with me that hatred is not like a radio or television. You cannot turn it off at will. Once it is in a person's system, it is very difficult to shed. And I feel that is the legacy of the Polish people have brought upon themselves. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1537.24,1562.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" When I arrived in my hometown, after this experience in the train, there were a few survivors-- eight or nine, I don't recall. And they told me, Joe, try to get away from here. Only recently, there was a pogrom in a town of Kielce where some of the survivors came back, and they were killed by the Polish people. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1562.09,1589.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" There is no excuse. They were not under the occupation by the Germans anymore. They were not forced to do it. The Russians did not tell them to do it. But, obviously, they felt that they had to help Hitler in the annihilation of our people. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1589.6,1607.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" That is inexcusable, unforgivable. I will never forgive them. I can't. I don't have a right to forgive them. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1607.42,1622.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" To get back to the survival process, if you will, I was privy, while still working in that same woodworking camp just before we evacuated our people to the east-- so we were told. I saw with my own eyes Germans tossing babies in the air and shooting them. I couldn't believe it, but I saw it. It did happen. And they were laughing as they were doing this. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1622.61,1672.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" This is, again, a situation that, now, as I look in retrospect, the Germans were the most enlightened and educated people in all of Europe at that time. That was not a Pole hate from the village who got his education only from the pulpit. Those were university-educated people. And, yet, they were killing infants. Unbelievable. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1672.47,1710.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" From then on, it was just a matter of a day-to-day survival by trying to organize whatever food was available, stealing, whichever way one could. As far as the outside world was concerned, we were less and less being informed on what was happening. After they took away our people by transport, that is a scene that will stay with me forever. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1710.29,1756.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" We were in that camp till about January of 1943. From there, they took us into the mountains near the Czechoslovakian border even closer. And it was in the height of the winter-- extremely, extremely cold, so much so that you watch the birds in flight freeze to death. That is cold. I didn't know about Celsius or Fahrenheit or any of this, but I could tell by this event that it was extremely cold. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1756.94,1788.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And we were working outside in the yard. I was very fortunate in that camp that I was working in the kitchen, so at least I did not have to endure that cruel cold. By March, they moved us into the first concentration camp, which was in Mielec. There was a Heinkel assembly plant-- Heinkel airplanes. And there we were until 1944. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1788.52,1820.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" During that time, there were various executions. We did not know why or whatever reason. Amongst them, they would line us up on the parade ground, and an assess man would count as he was walking by the ranks, and each 10th person had to step forward. And there were the Gestapo guys with machine guns waiting in a circle. Then they marched them off into the forest and killed them. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1820.46,1851.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" LAUREL VLOCK: I want to ask you. You said the evacuation, you never will forget that, but you didn't describe it. Would you? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1851.96,1860.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" JOSEPH KORZENIK: [SIGHS] Well, the reason I didn't describe is because it is an emotional moment in my life. When you see people that you grew up with-- neighbors, relatives-- and you see them in a state of agony-- screaming, crying-- and you're helpless. You just stand and observe it. Of course, you sort of rationalize, most likely, that they are taking away to the East for resettlement, as some of the rumors at that time persisted. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315#t=1860.58,1912.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80315/transcript/9320/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" We still couldn't believe what the Germans had in mind-- total annihilation of our people. It was still beyond comprehension. 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It didn't. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=421.29,446.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But anyway, then, the next situation, they brought us in on this large reveille place. And they told us all to undress, leave all our belongings, which consisted of just what we wore, and perhaps a few photographs. We had to leave everything. Then, they ushered us into a large shower room, and they let go of some ice water. Then, we went out through a different door into what they called a quarantine, which had four barracks. And that was a camp within a camp. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=446.09,496.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" In that quarantine, we walked around naked, day and night-- just again, four days and four nights. And during that time, they shaved us of all hair. And this is an extremely painful experience, when men use rusty razor blades and nick you, and then they use Lysol on the cut. That's an excruciating pain. Just burns. And some people didn't even survive that, from pain. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=496.16,543.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And then, they give us numbers-- prisoner numbers. Oh, yes, I'm going to get back to this, but I want to get back and talk about numbers. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=543.67,555.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" In Flossenburg, they tattooed us KL, which means Konzentrationslager. The reason for that being, should a prisoner escape, he would be easily detected and apprehended. And then, they could torture him in front of the other prisoners. Thus, again, escape was discouraged. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=555.43,586.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, in Flossenburg, they give us prisoner numbers. It so happens that I have saved my last prisoner number. The P stands for the Polish origin. The red triangle stands for the political prisoner. And the yellow stripe stands for Jew. As of that day, we ceased to have names. We were a number. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=586.84,622.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Also, during that particular period of time, they lined us all up, and a German doctor inspected us for physical fitness. And he had a German assistant with him-- a soldier-- who had a bucket with black paint and a brush, and they applied numbers on us, on our foreheads and our backs, like cattle. We didn't know, at that time, what this represented. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=622.62,663.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" However, in my case, I still had two cousins who were with me, and the one standing next to me was still well built, and he got a number two. And as the soldier finished painting the numbers on him, he told the doctor that this was my cousin. This was one of the very few times we ever had the audacity to speak at all to authority. So the doctor said, give him a two also. So then, I felt, well, he's in a good mood, so I might as well say my buddy standing next to me is also a cousin. So he gave him also a two. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=663.26,707.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But now, he stopped. And he said, \"Was ist das, die ganze mispiche.\" \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=707.81,715.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, in German, \"mispiche\" is not-- that's a Hebrew word. Now, we all had a nice laugh about it. But perhaps, as I look in retrospect, he might have been a servant of some Jewish family where he picked up some Jewish words. It's a possibility. It's not important. I also did not see his credentials, as far as his doctorate, et cetera. But be it as it may. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=715.01,743.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" The next day, they lined us up-- no. After we got these two-- number twos-- all the number twos were separated into one barrack out of these four barracks. And also, while we were under quarantine, it was situated just above the-- the, uh, crematorium. And again, we smelled the smoke of burning flesh day and night. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=743.52,775.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" In front of the entrance to this quarantine, there was a large grate. And all day long, they just kept bringing bodies. And they just piled them up. And there was a guy standing with a fork-- pitchfork-- and he just keep shoveling the bodies into the grate, which was on a hinge. Just kept dropping and dropping, and all day long, just kept burning and burning bodies. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=775.88,802.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And the next day, they called us all of from that barrack, and they started to call out numbers. I don't know for what reason, they came to the numerical sequence where my number was, they skipped it and went to the next numbers. And there were 50 of us who remained standing. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=802.89,826.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I think what happened at that time, they needed 1,000 men for a transport. So the Germans were always extremely cunning. They were always a step ahead of us. They must have taken an extra 50, just in case somebody dies, or somebody becomes incapacitated and cannot go for the transport, so they also had a pool to draw from. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=826.76,847.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, the 50 of us remained standing, and the other 1,000 were ushered into that shower room, outfitted for a transport, given uniforms, wooden shoes, and that whole bit. In the meantime, an air raid took place. I never saw any airplanes, but there was an air raid siren went on, and they pushed us all in to a bathroom, the 50 of us. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=847.28,874.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, after that took place, most of the boys from my town-- the survivors-- were taken in that transport. And I just felt like life is not worth living anymore. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=874.32,886.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: Transport to where? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=886.45,888.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: To oblivion, as it turned out. They were sent Leitmeritz, which was a camp in Austria, right on the border. The city of Luxembourg was situated in upper Bavaria, which is-- actually, it was right on the border of Czechoslovakia-- Germany and Czechoslovakia. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=888.58,905.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And in Leitmeritz, they were digging some sort of tunnels. And this entire group, there are only two-- excuse me, three-- that I know survived out of this 1,000. One is in Canada, and two are in New York. But I felt that life was not worth living anymore, because most of my friends, and this one cousin out of the two, was in that group. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=905.99,933.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, they didn't give me a chance too much to mourn, or to feel sorry for myself, because the very next day, I was taken off on a transport and sent out to a town named Hirschberg. In there, there were Polish prisoners. It seems like every concentration camp somehow had different leadership of different nationalities. In Germany, by and large, the German prisoners constituted the authorities of-- authorities within the camp. Not without, within. In this one, there were Polish prisoners, and when they got a hold of the Jewish prisoners, they had a ball with us. But I do remember, in that particular camp, that there was no water, because we drank from rain puddles. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=933.55,983.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And from there, we were sent out into the mountains to dig tunnels. And we were housed in a local jail. That was quite comfortable, compared to the other facilities. In that job, which was a very difficult, difficult, physical-- was difficult because of the physical exertion-- our Which consisted of using drills-- oh, about a yard long-- with a large pneumatic drill. And you stand there, and your whole body shakes. After five, 10 minutes, you can't even stand straight anymore. Even when you drop this thing, your body still shakes from every after-reaction. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=983.86,1031.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And then, one day, one of the foreman there was asking for schlossers-- locksmiths-- so I volunteered. He looked at me. I was still a young kid. So I told him that I was a locksmith helper-- apprentice. He says, OK, we'll see. We'll find out how much you know. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1031.11,1051.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Actually, the whole work consisted of, in case a pneumatic hose got ruptured, so you ran downstairs and you shut off the compressor, and you sliced the hose. And you put in an aluminum tube, you clamped it on each side, and put it back on, and that was that. The next job was to grease the conveyor belts. And this way, my job became an easier one again, and I was doing quite nicely. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1051.32,1083.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But this did not last very long either, because two Russians, who were part of this particular detail, escaped. So they came down on us right away, under heavy guard, with dogs. They took us down to this Hirschberg camp, and we figured this is it. And we were more or less resigned to the fact that this is the end. But as we expected the worst, they started to read out some numbers, and my number was amongst those chosen. And they took us back into the train and sent us back to Flossenburg, to the original base camp. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1083.18,1117.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And once we arrived there, the next morning, they lined us up for job assignments. And there was this German civilian, who was looking for somebody who knew how to read blueprints. And I volunteered again, and he selected me to help him read blueprints, which, again, was a soft job for a little while. It was nice to be occasionally given an apple or have a slice of bread. I found out from him that he was a flyer who was shut down. And he just came back into active-- so-called active-- duty as an engineer, rather than a flyer. He had some sort of a metal plate, breastplate, to keep his ribs together. He was nice, considering all the people I had met during that ordeal. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1117.13,1168.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: What time-- what month-- what date are you now? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1168.02,1171.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: I am now '44. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1171.23,1173.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: And he was German? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1173.53,1174.79"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Yes. This was already in Flossenburg, which is in Germany, in a stone quarry, which also had a Messerschmitt aircraft factory. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1174.79,1184.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: And that's what month and '44. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1184.26,1186.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Had to be in the fall. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1186.83,1188.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: And how did-- go to liberation. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1188.02,1191.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Not yet. Not yet. This was Flossenburg, 1944. And-- but, again, as I was working for this man for a short while, the German kapo, who was a green triangle-- most of the important jobs in Flossenburg were held by German Berufsverbrecher which means they were professional gangsters. They were classified. Like, mine was the red triangle, they were classified with a green triangle. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1191.2,1222.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, these men were vicious. Most of them had life sentences. And they were extremely cruel to the prisoners, especially to the Jewish prisoners. And after a little time of doing this blueprint reading, in a department where they were bringing in Messerschmidts that were shot down, or that crashed, and we were taking apart the planes and tried to salvage parts to be reused in the assembly for new airplanes. So my job was to make sure that the part that goes to the new assembly meets with all the specifications of the blueprint. But this was just a very short period of time. This man, I don't know what happened, he got sick or was transferred. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1222.33,1275.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" One day, I don't have the job anymore, and that kapo, who was in charge of this particular detail, assigns me to the penalty command, which is in the stone quarry. And this other kapo, who was in charge of the penalty command, was a totally deranged individual. He was a maniac. Just to give you an idea of how his mentality worked-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1275.09,1298.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" It was extremely cold. And we did very hard, physical labor. We were carrying with our shoulders airplane bodies. And for entertainment, when there was no actual movement of material, we were lugging rocks from one place to another, and back. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1298.09,1323.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But this man, one particular instant-- incident-- I have to explain, just to give you an idea of the mentality of these people-- he had an assistant, who was preparing some kind of a brew, some kind of a soup, I don't know what it was. And he calls us all in, because it was very cold. And he gives us all a dish, and he's having his assistant ladle out the soup for each prisoner. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1323.81,1349.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And as we sit there, before we have a chance to have a spoonful of soup, he takes the whip and cracks it, and have the soup, everything, blow up in our faces. And he starts to holler at us, \"You lazy, good for nothings, what did you come in here for? You're supposed to work.\" No reason, no rhyme. But this was the kind of mentality we were exposed to. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1349.58,1370.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, this was getting close to Christmas of 1944. This, I do remember, because of the events that took place. I knew that this particular penalty command, from speaking to other prisoners, nobody survived that. This was a one-way street to finish you off-- work you until you couldn't do any more, and that was it. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1370.82,1398.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" From the original 60 from my home town, there was a friend of mine, who was, at that time, an assistant to one of the German block leaders. And I pleaded with him. And he said that he'll intervene on my behalf. He spoke to his block leader, who, in turn, spoke Willie, who was the kapo in charge of this department. And that Christmas was the first time that we were given a pack of cigarettes. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1398.55,1429.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I heard afterwards that the Red Cross used to come in almost continuously to this camp, but we never saw one member of the Red Cross. We were never given one ounce of food that came from the Red Cross. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1429.44,1444.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, we got a pack of cigarettes that day, and my friend informed me, \"You give Willie that pack of cigarettes and he'll set you free.\" And I did. And so it happened. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1444.2,1456.36"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, I came back to work in the department where they took apart the planes. Within a short period of time, we were pulled off the regular barracks into-- again, quarantined to two separate barracks, all the Jews. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1456.36,1477.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: When? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1477.24,1478.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: This was about two weeks before liberation. I'm getting to that point. This was April 1945, beginning of April. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1478.41,1489.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" By the 16th, they evacuated us on trains and freight cars. After about less than a half hour on those trains, the American airplanes came overhead, and the massacre began. I guess they were not aware of who was in those trains. And there, for the first time, I saw a dead German soldier, or SS man, really. I saw one wounded once. Then, they brought another locomotive, and, again, we started out with this precious cargo. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1489.88,1525.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But that was some experience. You sit in a freight car, and you see arms, legs, flying all over the place, like in a slaughterhouse. A bloodbath. And there's nowhere you can go, because the minute you start to run out, the Germans are facing you with a machine gun. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1525.98,1545.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And the same thing occurred again the next day. Then, finally, they decided to march us. And we buried our dead. Oh, yeah, and on that particular morning, during that air raid, that second cousin got killed. After the war, I was saying to myself, who knows, maybe it was his brother in that American airplane who killed him, because I knew that he was in America. He must have been in the Army at that point. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1545.77,1577.07"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But at that time, I could not relate, because I did not know who those airplanes were. I didn't know what was going on. None of us knew what was going on. The conditions we were under at that time was-- oh, I do not know how to describe it, but you are at the mercy of the people in the airplanes and the German SS guards. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1577.07,1606.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, they started to march us, five abreast. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1606.0,1609.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: Did you have anything to eat? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1609.66,1612.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: When we left the camp, they give us a half a loaf of this bread, which was about that size. And this was finished right away, because we couldn't trust each other. To keep bread on yourself, you invited death, because we would kill for a piece of bread. So you have to eat it right away. So then, we were hungry. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1612.78,1637.17"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But anyway, as we started to march into the woods, it must have been late in the night when they made us stop. And we laid down on the ice, because I remember, in the morning, we woke up in water. Our bodies melted the ice. This was in April. This was in Bavaria. It was still cold. This was going on for a few days. We laid in the woods in the daytime and marched at night. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1637.17,1668.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" The day before liberation, it started to rain. And it was like a cloudburst-- thunder, lightning. It was pouring. And they just kept shooting all night. They decimated us that night. This was one of the most unbelievable experiences any man can even visualize. And this was going on all night. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1668.33,1700.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" There's one survivor, a friend of mine, who lives in Pittsburgh now. He pleaded us to let go of him, and we just kept dragging him and dragging him. What happened was that our clothing were very thin, about the quality of this shirt. That was our uniform. And the shoes were made of wood, with no break in them. It was just a piece of wood with some leather over it, or canvas, or whatever. And we couldn't bend our knees, or the ankles. We just walked like robots-- just dragged step by step. But we knew, the minute we fall down, that was the end, because they just kept killing us all night. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1700.77,1739.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And by morning, they brought us into some kind of a field barn. And then, we started to march again. They brought us into some small village, town square-like thing. And then, we saw, as we're standing there, we saw German officers wearing rucksacks. German officers don't wear field packs. So something again was not 100%. But this is all like in a fog. You look at these things. You observe them. You notice them, but you don't notice them really. It's afterwards, you just start to relate back some of your memories that should have given us a clue that something was afoot. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1739.96,1785.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, they started to march us off again. And as we were walking in the woods-- this was in the daytime now they're marching us. Before, it was strictly at night, because the American airplanes were overhead all the time. So now, they brought us into this forest area. We're marching, and then we hear this German on a motorcycle pulling up to the head of the convoy. And the word passed on right away that the Germ-- that the Americans surrounded the forest. And somehow, the German guards were marching up forward to the leader of the convoy. But by then, there were already more guards than prisoners. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1785.66,1828.5"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I don't know what happened to me, but at that particular point, as the last guard walked by me, I started to run. I ran away from the group, and I just kept running until I ran into a clearance. And then, I saw an airplane circling, so I went back. As I ran back, I see some of my buddies from the same five-- marched in fives-- were hiding behind trees as well. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1828.5,1848.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" So now, the five of us went to the-- a barn in the fields there, where they stored some plows and some appliances-- field appliances. But the hunger became so unbearable that we felt we have to go to some farm, or something, to get some food. And we did. We went to the first village, and the farmer did give us some bread. So we ran back to the barn, and we hid over there. And then, by the evening, went back into that same farmer's house, whatever it was. And he allowed us to sleep in the barn with the cows. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1848.43,1884.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And this was the first inkling of having any kind of modicum of security-- was in that barn with the cows. So much so, the next morning, we're liberated. The Americans occupied the area. The tanks were coming. But we didn't know whether they were Americans. At least, I didn't. It's just that the farmers kept screaming, \"Die Amerikaner! Die Amerikaner!\" \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1884.96,1905.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I looked at those tanks with the five-pronged star. And I'm color blind, so I remembered that the Russians had a five-pronged star. So as they were hollering, \"Amerikaner,\" I thought they were Russians. But it wasn't really that important. Suffice it to say, for the next three nights, we slept in barns with the cows. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1905.72,1924.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And also, one item I have to mention-- it's also of importance-- about the state of mind at that particular time. As we're walking by the road, we came across a group of Americans guarding German prisoners of war. And there was this American soldier, who spoke Polish, and he asked us who we were. And when we explained it to him, he interpreted to the American boys. And one of them took off his submachine gun. He handed it to me, motioning to kill the German prisoners. I became very frightened, and I gave it back to him. I just walked away from him. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1924.1,1962.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I couldn't believe it, that Americans were real. I couldn't believe it, that the Germans were actually defeated. It took a long time to understand that there was a stronger power than Germany. To us, they were the all-powerful. And they brainwashed us-- brainwashed us-- to such an extent that we had no belief in ourselves. We had no understanding for right and wrong at that particular point in time. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=1962.6,2001.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And as I look back, bear in mind, we still walked around in these striped uniforms. I happen to have a picture here that I took a few months after liberation, in Frankfurt. I look good already in this one. I have hair. You see it? I also-- since you have the camera here-- I'd like to show you what this last concentration camp is now. It is a national shrine, whatever they call it, for the German people, which I went back to in 1973, with my wife. And they made a beautiful-- like a garden-- memorial garden-- of this camp. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2001.32,2042.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, if you can zoom in your camera here, this will give you an idea of what the camp looked like after liberation, in 1945. All these barracks. This entire camp was built in a stone quarry. And every centimeter of this quarry was paid for with human blood. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2042.57,2064.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" There's also, over here, the money that they gave us for quality work. They called it Pramienschein. This particular one is for one mark. For us Jewish people, they were worthless. We couldn't do anything with them. The regular prisoners could. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2064.52,2083.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Here is a picture of a stone-- memorial stone-- at the German cemetery in Nuremberg vor Wald where we were liberated. After the war was over, the occupation forces-- the American army-- made the Germans take all these people, who were killed during that transport. I was telling you about, and they buried them in the German cemetery. This is one of the three stones. It's not there anymore. Right now, they have exhumed all these Jewish bodies, and they buried them in a separate Jewish cemetery, so as not to defile their own burial grounds. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2083.03,2133.5"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" For the longest time after liberation, I didn't want to live. I had nothing to live for. Somehow, in my deep recesses, I was hoping to live to see Germany destroyed. And I did live to see that. After that, there was nothing. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2133.5,2162.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" However, youth, I guess, has a tremendous resiliency. And it worked, in my stead, I guess. I was fortunate enough to meet many nice American soldiers, who took an interest in me. One of them, in fact, came from Springfield, Massachusetts. And when I told him that I think I have relatives in Hartford, he volunteered to write to the Hartford Red Cross. And when I came back from Poland, there was a letter waiting for me from a cousin of mine in Hartford, who volunteered to adopt me so that I could come to the United States. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2162.75,2210.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" When I came to my hometown, I found out that my oldest sister did survive, and she was already in Palestine at that time. And I resumed correspondence with her. And she insisted that I come to America, so I can get my education. And that's why I'm here. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2210.89,2243.74"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Any questions? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2243.74,2250.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: How has America, and the American life, been for you, in terms of putting this experience into some sort of relationship with the rest of all your life? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2250.61,2266.73"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: America is one of the greatest experiences in mankind. In the beginning, I would say for the first year, I was very unhappy, very uncomfortable. I didn't want to live here. And yet, I was very fortunate to have relatives of my father's living in Hartford. At that time, there were two brothers and three sisters with their families. But I felt very uncomfortable. I felt strange. I could not adjust to a normal way of living. And you people are extremely normal. And I lived in a very abnormal society for a long time. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2266.73,2324.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And I did study. I was very fortunate to have that same cousin who volunteered to adopt me, she set up a school for the survivors. And she had a tremendous amount of empathy, and she was also gifted, to the tune where she was able to teach us English and the American way of life in a very unusual way. So much so that she was trying to eradicate the hatred from within us by explaining to us how, in the United States, there are interracial commissions, that people do not hate the Jews, as they did in Europe, the people are good people. And proceeded to introduce us to some of the finest professionals in the Hartford area, who volunteered their time to speak before us, and to answer any questions that we had, explain to us the American system, which was extremely valuable, because that somehow was positive enough to offset some of the hatreds within me. Not completely, but somewhat. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2324.86,2404.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And then, I was very fortunate to meet the right girl, and my life became a beautiful life. I'm extremely happy that I had an opportunity to live my bonus life, as I call it, because there is a birth and there's a rebirth. In our case, we were fortunate enough to come out of this hell and to be reborn. And having been given this opportunity, it has served as a very good force. Because somehow, I feel I was very fortunate to take all these negatives and transfer them into positives. The do not's-- do not do this, do not do that. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2404.03,2453.21"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I'm involved right now in setting up a center for study and education on Holocaust awareness. Hopefully it'll be at the University of Hartford. There's a group that I'm involved with of nine dedicated people, each one specializing in a different area. Mine is the survivors, of which I hope to have a constituency to impress upon the world the importance of eradicating hatred. Once we speak about hatred, I find that it is a counter-productive emotion that none of us should grovel in. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2453.21,2505.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I don't know what the professionals call this, but a person who hates actually hates himself. Because that's exactly what it is. The hatee may not even know the agony that the hater goes through the process of hating. And we have dedicated ourselves to educate the youngsters, because somehow I, who speak for Joe [INAUDIBLE], feel that my peer of Americans, and some of my fellow survivors, are very difficult to reach-- very difficult to even empathize-- expect empathy from them. It is an unpleasant topic. It's something, for the longest time, I did not talk about, because people do not want to hear it. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2505.23,2559.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I have been lecturing since 1970, and I find that the youth is the most responsive. The youth can get the best out of me, and get the best answers, because they ask the best questions. Adults somehow retreat into a shell, whether it is guilt, whether it is, uh-- I don't know exactly how to describe it. But I find that youth wants to know. And they are really the future of the world. And we have to get to them, in spite of their parents. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2559.61,2600.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" So much so, to illustrate what I'm trying to say and to convey, is that a cross burning should not be looked upon by kids as an exciting event. It should be looked upon in a negative sense, that the boy who calls you to see an exciting event should be ostracized from that group. He should not get peer recognition, but contrary, he should be looked down upon, because they know, through study, what this represents. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2600.71,2637.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: Do you honestly believe, deep down, that people, when they know and they hear, will change their behavior? Do you think knowing can change things? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2637.4,2649.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Yes, absolutely. I feel more so with each passing lecture before a young-- group of young people. I am more firmly convinced that these people can be reached, and they will react. We have witnessed it in the '60s. We have witnessed where youngsters have become totally alienated from their parents, hating ideas. We have seen youngsters put their lives on the line, as they did at Kent University, because they believed that their parents were following a wrong Messiah. Vietnam was a disaster for our people. There were enough young people who believed that it was a disaster. We did not recognize it as such, but the youth did. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2649.6,2718.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I recall one lecture, on the eve of Passover this past year, at the Xavier High School in Middletown, Connecticut. That was a group of approximately 50 seniors. All boys. Roman Catholic, of course. And there, I had an opportunity to explain to these youngsters what I expect of them. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2718.65,2749.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: Did you talk about your distrust of the Church? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2749.44,2752.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: All the way. I gave them a lecture on the Roman Catholic Church, all the way back to Pope Constantine. I spoke to them about that famous painting, The Last Supper, and I explained to them what it represented. And I also explained to them that every man sitting at that table was a Jew. And I also explained to them that it was the Romans who conquered Judea. It was the Romans who were in charge. It was the Romans who executed Jesus. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2752.8,2790.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But now, we find ourselves in Rome, the seat of Catholicism. Now, how can the Pope Constantine allow for its followers to believe that the Romans killed their god? I also gave them an understanding of deicide. Site How can a god be killed, unless he wants to become a martyr? For a noble cause, to be sure. But nevertheless, he was a Jew. And all the rest is nonsense. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2790.51,2833.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I can talk to you about Queen Isabella, and what she did during the Inquisition, because of the power of the Church. It was that same Roman Catholic Church. However, she gave the Jews a choice. She gave them a choice to convert or die. We were not given that same choice. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2833.65,2860.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" We talk about the Roots experiment in this country. As I was watching it last year, I couldn't help but observe an injustice, to be sure. But we find ourselves where slaves are brought into the United States to work and to live. We were brought into Germany to work and to die. And there's a major, major difference. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2860.68,2892.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: Joe, before we conclude, would you like to answer Laura's question? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2892.16,2898.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Sure. Which one's that? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2898.23,2898.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: The one before, what you saw at the train station. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2898.97,2903.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Pardon? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2903.53,2904.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: What you saw. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2904.08,2905.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: I did tell her, that I watched my friends and neighbors \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2905.28,2909.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: And what about your own-- \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2909.37,2910.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: --in an extremely bad state of being. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2910.85,2915.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: And your family? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2915.47,2916.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: As my own family was concerned, after about a week, they were going from farm to farm, almost from village to village, and there was no room at the inn. They just could not-- nobody would accept them. They could not hide. They couldn't save themselves. And they came back into that street, and the next day, I went to work. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2916.76,2943.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And as I was working in that wood processing factory, in my home town, I saw a group of people herded down the main road. And afterwards, I found out that it was my family. And from that day, I never saw them again. I found out, after the war, from my sister, who did some research, that they were all exterminated in Belzec, which was an extermination camp-- annihilation camp. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2943.97,2974.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Before I conclude, strange you brought me to this particular area of thought-- how many of us really realize that the total annihilation camps were only in Poland? They were not in Germany. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2974.56,2997.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: Dachau had an annihilation camp. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2997.06,2999.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: It was also a work camp. It was work as well. You have Belzec, Sobibor, Majdanek, Treblinka, and there were others. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=2999.0,3012.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: Chelmno. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3012.84,3014.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Chelmno. Chelmno's another one, that's right. And Babi Yar, which was already the Russian Ukraine. All in the east. Poland is the graveyard of my people. It is strange, when one starts to philosophize. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3014.48,3034.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And I look at Hitler, who is now the scapegoat for all evil. Well, it's not exactly so. True, he had an inflaming oratory abil-- capability. But Hitler, to the best of my knowledge, did not kill anybody personally. It was the dormant hatreds within the people. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3034.4,3063.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: You think there's a chance for rehabilitation of life for Jewish people in eastern Europe? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3063.62,3069.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: No. Not the way it is right now. Maybe in future generations. As we say in our own Old Testament, the pharaoh, who did not know Joseph, came into being in a different way. Perhaps, a future generation of Poles will rid themselves of that hatred that their parents have so easily accepted. I cannot speak as an authority about what is going to happen in the future, but I would like to say that, if there's any hope for a better world, it has to begin with the youngsters. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3069.75,3117.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Also, at that particular situation-- time in Middletown, I explained to these youngsters that, when you hear, even in your own family, a person use the term nigger, kike, or any denigrating terminology, there's a person who hates. Get your antennas up quickly. And remember, if he can hate others so easily, he can hate you just as easily, too. Those are truisms, because hate has no boundaries, I don't think. It's not limited. Because once a person has the ability to hate, he can just as easily hate you as me, or anybody else. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3117.28,3161.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" In another area I spoke before, I would say it was a total non-Jewish group, which was in Essex. There's a tri-town high school. And one of the girls, during the question period, I couldn't help but answer her in such a way that, assuming Hitler were successful and he did eliminate all the Jews from this world, which is not so far fetched-- thank God, he didn't-- nevertheless, assuming that he was successful, now three or four years down the road, somebody is reading this particular script. However, this particular person has a hatred towards people wearing glasses. Now, we all know somebody wears glasses. Now, having learned from the Germans, mein kampf, as well as the practice of genocide during the Holocaust period, they can just as easily eliminate all the people who wear glasses. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3161.33,3229.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And how will we know? And what are we going to do to prevent it? Because my feeling and belief still is that it can happen again. As a matter of fact, it has been happening right along. The war has been over 34 years and, for 34 years, this same kind of genocide, of one brand or another, has been practiced all over the world. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3229.84,3254.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" We are finding ourselves right now, where, in Russia, for the past 60-some odd years, there has been cultural genocide. We see what's going on right now in Indonesia, with the Cambodian people. And the world stands by and watches all this happen? We have the United Nations. It's a joke. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3254.08,3277.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Anyway, in Bridgeport last summer, Professor Lapidus asked me a question-- \"What are we Jewish survivors doing to help the boat people?\" So I answered him that I'm here to speak on the topic of the Holocaust. However, I'm not an expert on this subject. I'll just answer you the way I read it, or see it, or perceive it. The first nation to accept boat people was the state of Israel. There were 100. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3277.08,3312.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Now, what I would like to ask you, professor, now, since there are approximately 3 million Israelis, would you please tell me the number of the population of the world right now? And some student volunteered, 4 and 1/2 billion. So then, I asked him, out of the 4 and 1/2 billion of people, this small, tiny, little group of people saw it in their hearts to help. And heaven knows, they sure have enough problems. And I understand that they have taken more since. There have been some Israeli ships involved in the rescuing of drowning Vietnamese people. We find a haven. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3312.0,3356.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" But now, I'd like to ask the world this question-- where is the third world that is pounding at the doors of the Western world, \"Give me, give me, I'm entitled!\" What are these people doing to these less fortunate ones? They sure have an abundance of territory. I don't see their largesse trying to help. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3356.8,3381.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" And this is what we have to address ourselves, to make the world aware that you've got to help. And you do not put an idiot like Amin to head a group of nations, or an Arafat-- a terrorist-- to come to speak before the United Nations. Those are the people that are given recognition? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3381.6,3405.54"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" You go into Mexico, they speak about the woman's world, and you have people who speak in a derogatory fashion towards the Israeli women, who, by then, had already a woman prime minister? And in the same countries who speak and are listened to, women have no rights. They still walk behind their man. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3405.54,3429.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Injustices. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3429.59,3432.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: I think we have, the most, the most articulate man I think we've met so far. I mean, Daria was passing notes saying don't interrupt. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3432.51,3444.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: I never even spoke about my notes. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3444.33,3446.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: Oh, yes, you did. I was watching very carefully. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3446.35,3448.17"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: I was? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3448.17,3454.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" You know, there's a lot to be said about a lot of things. But the most important part is, where are we going, and why did we survive? I think we survived to do just what I'm doing right now. It's important to show the so-called normal world that, unless they wake up, they'll be as abnormal as I was. And that should not happen. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3454.41,3483.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 1: OK. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3483.94,3484.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: Tape stopped. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3484.58,3486.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: That should not happen. You're speechless. \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3486.11,3493.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" INTERVIEWER 2: We listened enough today, huh? \n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316#t=3493.31,3496.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/134/file/80316/transcript/9322/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" SUBJECT: Thank you people for giving me this opportunity. 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