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He describes his Orthodox family; attending yeshiva in Dvorets; antisemitic incidents in 1938; Soviet occupation in 1939; German invasion in June 1941; anti-Jewish laws; a mass killing on July 15, 1941 including his parents and younger sister; ghettoization in November; Alter Dvoretski, a Judenrat leader, organizing partisans; smuggling arms into the ghetto; hiding with his older sister during a mass killing on August 6, 1942; their escape; learning Dvoretski was murdered by non-Jewish partisans; smuggling themselves into Dvorets labor camp; their escape to the forest; joining Hirsch Kaplinski's partisans in autumn 1942; German offensives including those of Andrei Vlasov's army; hiding in a bunker with his sister; rejoining partisans; anti-Nazi operations; liberation by Soviet troops in July 1944; immediate draft into the Soviet military; fleeing to Łódź with his sister in 1945; living in Bergen-Belsen displaced persons camp in 1946; reunion with his older brother; and emigration to Canada in January 1948. Mr. P. discusses revenge, his motivation in the partisans; losing faith in prayer despite maintaining Jewish practices; and sharing his experiences with his children. His shows photographs and notes his town's Yizkor book. (Abstract)","This testimony is open with permission. (Conditions Governing Access)","Copyright has been transferred to the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. Use of this testimony requires permission of the Fortunoff Video Archive. 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He describes his Orthodox family; attending yeshiva in Dvorets; antisemitic incidents in 1938; Soviet occupation in 1939; German invasion in June 1941; anti-Jewish laws; a mass killing on July 15, 1941 including his parents and younger sister; ghettoization in November; Alter Dvoretski, a Judenrat leader, organizing partisans; smuggling arms into the ghetto; hiding with his older sister during a mass killing on August 6, 1942; their escape; learning Dvoretski was murdered by non-Jewish partisans; smuggling themselves into Dvorets labor camp; their escape to the forest; joining Hirsch Kaplinski's partisans in autumn 1942; German offensives including those of Andrei Vlasov's army; hiding in a bunker with his sister; rejoining partisans; anti-Nazi operations; liberation by Soviet troops in July 1944; immediate draft into the Soviet military; fleeing to Łódź with his sister in 1945; living in Bergen-Belsen displaced persons camp in 1946; reunion with his older brother; and emigration to Canada in January 1948. Mr. P. discusses revenge, his motivation in the partisans; losing faith in prayer despite maintaining Jewish practices; and sharing his experiences with his children. His shows photographs and notes his town's Yizkor book.","This testimony is open with permission.","Copyright has been transferred to the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies. 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I'm Sandy Hayden interviewing Mr. Rubin Pinski. Um, Mr. Pinski, um, you were born in a little town in P-- Poland. Can you tell us what the name of the town was?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=16.46,35.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, the name of town is Zdzieciol.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=35.29,37.225"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Zdzieciol.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=37.225,37.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: In Polish.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=37.83,38.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=38.61,39.285"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: In Russian, it was Dyatlovo.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=39.285,41.955"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Dyatlovo.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=41.955,43.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And well-known in the Yiddish name, Zhetl.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=43.04,46.992"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Zhetl. So how-- how do you-- how do you refer to it?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=46.992,51.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, among friends and among, uh, people, call it Zhetl naturally.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=51.02,56.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: OK, so can we call it-- can we call it Zhetl during the interview? 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On the other side towards Minsk was, uh, a city in the name of Slonim.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=88.9,105.356"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Yeah, and did-- did you used to travel often to these cities?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=105.356,110.395"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, not often. 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And how big was-- how many people were-- were in-- in Zhetl?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=120.41,124.563"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, the whole population was only about, uh, 7,500 to 8,000.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=124.563,130.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mm-hmm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=130.96,131.925"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And at least 60% of them are Jews.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=131.925,135.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Really? So you-- you felt that it was more Jewish-- you felt the Jewish community very strongly there.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=135.38,142.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=142.13,142.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh. And what sort of Jewish community was it? Was it orthodox or?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=142.51,146.615"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, of all kinds. Um, the, uh, the youth were very-- very Zionist-minded. There was a Betar in our town, the extreme right; Ha-Shomer Ha-tza'ir. There were also a Bund, which is socialist. Some very few communist youth, all kinds of, uh, organizations.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=146.615,175.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mm-hmm. And was your family attached to any organization?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=175.03,179.216"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, my father was religious.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=179.216,181.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: He was religious, yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=181.53,183.026"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And belonged to the Agudat Yisrael. This is a religious organization. And I-- I finished Talmud Torah. And, uh, also learned in a Hevra Tarbut shul, which was a Hebrew school.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=183.026,201.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mm-hmm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=201.46,202.388"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And, uh, then I-- when I was 13, I was sent to yeshiva. 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And so did he sell it-- did he sell it in-- in the town, or did he take it to the bigger cities?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=408.775,413.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: No. He sold it in the town to someone who used to buy from everybody. Also, he used to deal with-- what was it called? Mushrooms. 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You were worried that that could start happening in Poland also.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=839.6,842.245"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, we were very worried and scared in the last few years before the war broke out.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=842.245,848.955"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. 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You mind me asking you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=993.53,995.64"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, I was only 15 years old.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=995.64,997.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: 15 years old.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=997.46,998.944"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=998.944,999.386"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh. 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So that was two years.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1323.861,1327.104"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Nearly two years.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1327.104,1328.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Right, nearly two years, yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1328.02,1329.046"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Rougly two years, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1329.046,1329.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And in a way, it sounds like your life didn't change too much in those tears. 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So it was more Marxist or socialist.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1368.91,1372.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Right. They tried to teach us. 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And was your father able to continue doing what he had been doing?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1385.605,1388.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: No.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1388.96,1389.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: What-- what-- what did he-- what happened to his work then?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1389.58,1393.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: He, uh, he used to buy, well, not exactly the same way as to-- before used to buy direct from the farmers and-- and sell it. 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But it was-- it was all right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1428.91,1431.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Before that change, yeah. But we got used to it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1431.84,1434.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh. 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So food, and clothing, and shoes, and all that sort of thing during the Russian occupation wasn't-- was that-- was not too much of a problem. You never--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1447.062,1456.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, it was a problem, because it never brought in anything. 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So you were just hoping that that would continue right until--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1490.2,1494.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1494.8,1495.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: But then in 1941--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1495.56,1498.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: 1941, when Hitler attacked, uh, Russia, our city was taken by the Germans officially the 30th of June, 1941.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1498.19,1512.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1512.2,1512.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: That was eight days later. 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So there was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1558.981,1560.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Eight days.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1560.53,1561.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Really, so there was fighting around your town for-- for eight days.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1561.43,1564.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, was fighting about eight days.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1564.89,1566.806"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh. 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And you must-- do you rem-- I mean, you must have been very frightened about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1591.866,1596.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Very frightened, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1596.57,1597.362"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Do you remember the feeling?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1597.362,1598.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, yes, I remember. I used to hide even in the basement.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1598.76,1603.73"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: With your whole family?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1603.73,1604.69"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: The whole family for days till-- till the, uh, shooting got a little bit, uh, eased.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1604.69,1614.296"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. And during those eight days, do you-- I mean, were you worried about what was going to happen now that the Russians had left?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1614.296,1621.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, the uh, we knew that it's not so good that the Germans occupied. The, uh, living will be, a bad horror. 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They, uh, first came in without-- without, uh, cars, or tanks, or just occupied the city. And, uh, immediately, they started, um, they started to ask the, uh, some of the, uh, Polish or White-- or the-- or the non-Jewish population where are-- where the Jews are. 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Some of them were already with them, helping them, uh, showing them the Jewish, uh, houses. And they went and robbed, and beat, and uh, and-- the three days after the, uh, they had already with them some, um, placards hanging out in, uh, three languages-- in German, in Russian, and, uh, and uh, Polish. All de-- decrees against Jews.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1707.39,1757.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Really? Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1757.28,1758.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: That the Jews, uh, cannot walk on the sidewalk. They cannot, uh, possess, uh, fur coats. They cannot-- they cannot have any gold. They have to give it away to the Germans-- and a long list of decrees against Jews.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1758.7,1781.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSo we knew right away the trouble started. And, uh, slowly, the Jews started to come out of the-- of the hiding. And-- and, uh, the, uh, Germans gave every day new orders to, uh, collect food and collect clothes for them. And then in the, uh, third week was in July the 5th.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1781.34,1818.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: At that time, had they, um, had there been any brutality? Had there been-- had they killed any Jews during those three weeks? 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As a matter of fact, the rabbi for our town was also included in that. And the men on the 15h of July, it was only two weeks after they occup-- they came in, they, uh, sent the police to tell all the Jews to come on the marketplace, to get on the marketplace from the age of 16 to 60.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1922.07,1957.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tActually, they said officially 16 to 60, but whenever they caught younger ones, they also pushed to the marketplace. And, uh, on that-- on that, uh, marketplace, the Gestapo came in. They had a-- a table and the market chairs. 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What sort of people were they? All men or--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1993.16,1996.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: All men and the better-- the better class of people from the city, and the-- and the uh, the richer and, uh, more learned, and they packed them in trucks.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1996.1,2015.056"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: How do you-- how do you think they got that list? Who gave them the list?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2015.056,2017.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: The, uh, the list was helped by the, uh, local, by local collaborators to the Germans.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2017.98,2026.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. Who knew the people in the-- the Jewish people.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2026.96,2029.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: They knew everybody. As a matter of fact, in Tarbut, in the Hebrew school, there was a janitor, and he could speak Yiddish just as good as any Jew.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2029.96,2043.673"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2043.673,2044.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And he was right away with the Germans and gave out all the Jews who were, uh, known in the-- in the town . And, uh, they took-- they said they are going to take this, uh, 120 people to work in Nowogrodek. Nowogrodek is a bigger city than ours about 38 kilometers away. But we found out later that they were shot in Nowogrodek.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2044.44,2080.484"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And when did you find that out?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2080.484,2083.54"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Well, we found out from-- from peasants, which saw it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2083.54,2090.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: So that was the first really bad atrocity that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2090.46,2094.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes. That was only two weeks after they entered our town. And, uh, decrees or all kinds of, uh, every day they demanded from us something else, the Germans. They, uh, or-- we organized work like there was, uh, a highway the Russians started and didn't finish. So they, uh, took men who could-- well, they were a little stronger to work on that highway. And I was also, uh, working on that highway.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2094.23,2139.17"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Because then you were a young man. You were 16, 17.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2139.17,2141.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: I was young and strong, and--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2141.01,2142.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2142.96,2143.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And I wanted to live, and they gave out \u003ci\u003eschein. 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So you had-- you had a red one?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2172.573,2175.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: I have a good \u003ci\u003eschein,\u003c/i\u003e yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2175.33,2176.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: You had a good one.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2176.56,2177.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2177.29,2178.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: How were you chosen to-- to go and work?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2178.35,2181.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: I, uh, actually, they were asking for volunteers, and, uh, I wanted for this job, so I worked on the-- on the, uh, building that highway.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2181.44,2196.15"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. And your brothers?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2196.15,2198.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: My brother wasn't with me. He was, uh-- he was already taken-- before the atta-- the Germans attacked, he was taken to the Russian Army.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2198.34,2210.095"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: How-- who-- who took him? Was he conscripted to the Russian Army?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2210.095,2214.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: No, no. He was already of age.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2214.33,2216.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh, oh, I see.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2216.4,2217.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: He was born in 19--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2217.03,2218.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: So he was in--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2218.4,2219.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: 20. He was 18 years old, and he was taken legally to the Russian Army.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2219.44,2225.382"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: To the Russian Army. Uh-huh. So had you-- did you keep-- manage to keep correspondence with him during that time?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2225.382,2231.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: It wasn't very-- it was right before the war. All we heard-- we had only one letter from him that he is going into-- deep into Russia. And since then we were apart for six years.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2231.52,2246.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Really? So you didn't know what had happened to you.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2246.58,2248.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: We found him in 1946.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2248.68,2250.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. So that was-- that must have been very hard for your mother and father and all of you.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2250.86,2256.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Oh, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2256.02,2256.952"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: It would be really--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2256.952,2257.418"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: That's right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2257.418,2258.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And your sister? 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And then your younger brother.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2263.95,2266.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: No, my younger sister.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2266.57,2267.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Your younger sister, sorry.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2267.85,2269.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: I didn't tell my younger brother. 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The whole-- the whole, uh, all the inhabitants of that house, we shared. 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But it didn't do anything. A lot of Jewish houses were occupied by-- by, uh, local, uh, non-Jews. But some of them were still empty-- our house was still empty standing there.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2437.01,2451.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. So you could sneak in at night.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2451.72,2453.92"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: I used to sneak in every night and bring a little bit of potatoes that I could carry myself.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2453.92,2460.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2460.08,2460.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: And that's-- that's how we could live for a while.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2460.98,2464.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm And what were the living conditions like in the ghetto?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2464.81,2467.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Very bad.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2467.99,2469.095"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm. Can you-- can you describe it a little bit?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2469.095,2470.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, they packed in in the house, in a little house, about 800 square feet or 900 square feet. 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And-- and lice also.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2506.566,2509.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2509.18,2511.421"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And what-- what did the people, the leaders of the ghetto, of the Judenrat, were they fair in the way they--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2511.421,2517.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, they were very fair, but they were also-- they had the same, uh, goals we did. 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And anybody who could be of help-- he used everybody that could be of help. Only the young people he mobilized. And myself was working in the highway, building the highway. I had a chance to bring into the ghetto parts of, uh, weapons.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2532.46,2566.056"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2566.056,2567.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: So we used to tie it in bundles of wood.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2567.72,2574.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: So they wouldn't see.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2574.04,2574.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: To carry it in. 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Anybody that was found with something was shot right away.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2593.11,2599.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: So you were lucky you never--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2599.49,2601.15"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, I was lucky.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2601.15,2601.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: you were never caught. 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So you joined the partisan group in the ghetto.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2608.686,2611.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yeah. In the ghetto--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2611.85,2613.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: 194-- 1941?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2613.96,2615.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: 1941.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2615.59,2616.776"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2616.776,2617.588"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: We organized the-- in the basement, we used to put together the uh rifles.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2617.588,2625.146"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And did you-- did you use them? 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Then my parents were-- got killed killed and my sister. 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They said to resettle for labor or something else, but they took them behind the town.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2789.45,2800.055"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And there was nothing that you could do.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2800.055,2802.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Nothing I could do. And my sister went with that, uh, my friend who had a good \u003ci\u003eschein\u003c/i\u003e too, and she was, uh, rescued.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2802.01,2815.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: Is that-- that day must be a very hard day for you to remember.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2815.29,2817.885"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: A very bad day, yeah. They killed half of the Jewish population in one day, and then they shortened the ghetto. They cut it in half. In other words, they, uh, took all the edges around the ghetto, and they told the Jews-- for the Jews to put an electric fence closer inside. And I continued to work on that highway.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2817.885,2851.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSANDY HAYDEN: And-- and the Jews, your family and the other Jews, were they taken? What happened to them?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2851.76,2858.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tRUBIN PINSKI: Yes, they were taken. They were led through the streets. They were taken behind the town, and forced to undress, and the, uh, the graves were already dug. It was already ready, and they shot 50 people at a time right-- right on top of the grave. 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And, uh, towards evening, at night, we tried to get to-- we tried to get out of there, because we knew we cannot stay there overnight.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3084.24,3117.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/transcript/22144/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd, uh, somehow everybody wants to get out first and started a commotion inside when the, uh, the Germans with the Lithuanians and the Ukrainians were all helping the Germans, uh, in the gathering the Jews. They heard noise in the building. 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And, uh, and, uh, one-- one evening, instead of going back to the-- the ghetto, there was also a ghetto in that camp, sort of a ghetto, I stayed behind a-- a hump of stones. 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Well, this I think we finished the first half of the tape. 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Zhetl), Poland. Currently Dziatlava, Belarus. Near Grodno. At one time home to rabbinic celebrities like R. Yaakov Krantz, “the Maggid of Dubno”, and R. Israel Kagan, “the Hafetz Hayyim”. Most Jewish residents were artisans and merchants. See Shmuel Spector, Geoffrey Wigoder, eds., \u003cem\u003eThe Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust\u003c/em\u003e (New York, 2001), 1498; Geoffrey P. Margargee, eds., \u003cem\u003eEncyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933–1945\u003c/em\u003e (Bloomington, IA, 2009), 1307; Guy Miron and Shlomit Shuhani, eds., \u003cem\u003eThe Yad Vashem Encyclopedia of the Ghettos during the Holocaust\u003c/em\u003e, 2 vols. (Jerusalem, 2009), II: 974; \u003cem\u003ePinḳes Zsheṭl: tsum 15-ṭn yorṭog nokh dem groyzamen ḥurbn\u003c/em\u003e (Tel Aviv, 1957), ed. Barukh Ḳaplinsḳi.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=35.29,37.225"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBaranowicze (Yid. Baranovitch). Currently Baranovichi, Belarus. Near Minsk. The town had around 12,000 Jews (about 50 percent) and was famous for its yeshiva, headed by R. Elkhanan Wasserman. Baranowicze hosted both a leading Hasidic yeshiva affiliated with the Slonim Dynasty, Yeshivat Torat Ḥesed, and the non-Hasidic yeshiva Ohel Torah, led by the famed R. Elḥanan Wasserman. See Yehuda Bauer, “Jewish Baranowicze and the Holocaust,” \u003cem\u003eYad Vashem Studies\u003c/em\u003e 31 (2003), 95-152, at http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%207082.pdf; and Rubin Kaplan, Palonkeh and Baranovichi, Belarus, from 1904 to 1922, available at https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Baranovichi/baranovichi.html.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=77.203,88.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eVilna (Pol. Wilno; Yid. Vilne). Currently Vilnius, capital of Lithuania. Known as “the Jerusalem of Lithuania, home to famous Talmudic scholars like R. Elijah, the Gaon of Vilna, secular Yiddish poets like Avraham Sutzkever, and institutions promoting modern Jewish culture like YIVO (Yiddish Scientific Institute, founded in 1925). See Israel Cohen, Vilna (Philadelphia, 1992); Yisrael Klausner, Ṿilnah, \u003cem\u003eYerushalayim de-Liṭa: dorot aḥaronim, 1881-1939\u003c/em\u003e (Tel Aviv, 1983); Cecile Kuznitz, \u003cem\u003eYIVO and the Making of Modern Jewish Culture\u003c/em\u003e (Cambridge, 2014).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=77.203,88.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLida, Poland. Currently in Belarus. Famous for a yeshiva founded by the pioneering Religious Zionist, R. Yitzhak Yaakov Reines (d. 1915), who introduced secular studies into its curriculum despite objections by some traditionalists. See https://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/lida/lida.html; Yosef Lindell, \"Beacon of Renewal: The Educational Philosophy of the Lida Yeshiva in the Context of Rabbi Isaac Jacob Reines' Approach to\u003cbr\u003eZionism\" \u003cem\u003eModern Judaism\u003c/em\u003e, 29:2 (2009), 268-294.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=88.9,105.356"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMinsk, capital of the Belarusian Soviet Socialist Republic (BSSR) from 1921 to 1991; currently capital of Belarus. The Belarusians (“White Russians”) Rubin sometimes refers to were a small, mainly rural minority in interwar Poland who were cut off from the Belarusian intelligentsia in Minsk, home to around 90,000 (37 percent) Jews. Under Soviet rule, secular Yiddish culture flourished there. The Germans entered on June 28, 1941, established a ghetto of 84,000 people, and began to liquidate it in November. The Minsk underground smuggled something like 7,500 Jews into the surrounding forests. See Walke, \u003cem\u003ePioneers and Partisans\u003c/em\u003e, 67-102; Elissa Bemporad, \u003cem\u003eBecoming Soviet Jews: The Bolshevik Experiment in Minsk\u003c/em\u003e (Bloomington, 2013); Timothy Snyder, \u003cem\u003eThe Reconstruction of Nations: Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus\u003c/em\u003e (New Haven, 2003).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=88.9,105.356"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSlonim, Poland. Currently in Belarus. Famous for the Slonim Hasidic dynasty, founded by R. Avraham of Slonim (d. 1883) and best known for the book \u003cem\u003eNetivot Shalom\u003c/em\u003e, by the eleventh Slonimer Rebbe, R. Shalom Noach Barzovsky (1911-2000). Much of the dynasty was wiped out during the Holocaust, as was most of the town’s 22,000 Jews. At least four hundred Slonim Jews escaped the ghetto and fled to the forest, many forming a partisan group that liberated the Jews in Kossovo on October 2, 1943. See Gutman, ed., \u003cem\u003eEncyclopedia of the Holocaust\u003c/em\u003e vol. 4 (NY, 1990), 1363-4.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=88.9,105.356"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePopulation 7500, 60 percent Jewish. In fact, Jews constituted 3,450 of Zhetl’s 4,600 residents (75 percent) in 1926, and constituted about 3,500 by the outbreak of WWII. 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See Jacob Katz, “Orthodoxy in Historical Perspective,” \u003cem\u003eStudies in Contemporary Jewry\u003c/em\u003e 2 (1986); Michael Silber, “Orthodoxy,” in the \u003cem\u003eYIVO Encyclopedia of Jews in Eastern Europe\u003c/em\u003e, at http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Orthodoxy.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=142.51,146.615"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eZionist. A proponent of Zionism, a modern political movement for the establishment of a Jewish state, preferably in the Land of Israel (Palestine). Zionism had forerunners in eastern and central Europe, gained currency in the wake of the pogroms of 1881-2, and was first introduced to the world as “Zionism” in 1897 by Theodore Herzl (1860-1904). For its secularist and religious varieties, see Arthur Herzberg, \u003cem\u003eThe Zionist Idea\u003c/em\u003e (Philadelphia, 1997).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=146.615,175.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBetar. The youth group of Revisionist Zionism, a movement founded by Ze’ev (Vladimir) Jabotinsky (1880-1940) that advocated a militant and openly statist Zionism. The name Betar recalls the last Jewish fort to fall in the Bar Kokhba Revolt (136 CE), and is an acronym for “Brit Yosef Trumpeldor,” after a Zionist martyr. See Daniel Heller, \u003cem\u003eJabotinsky's Children: Polish Jews and the Rise of Right-Wing Zionism\u003c/em\u003e (Princeton, NJ, 2017).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=146.615,175.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHashomer ha-tza’ir (“The Young Guard”). The youth movement of Socialist Zionism (Poalei Tsiyon) that helped inspire and build the kibbutz movement in the Yishuv and future State of Israel. See Elkana Margalit, “Social and intellectual origins of the Hashomer Hatzair youth movement, 1913-1920,” \u003cem\u003eJournal of Contemporary History\u003c/em\u003e 4.2 (1969) 25-46.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=146.615,175.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Bund. General Jewish Labor Bund, a secularist Jewish socialist party founded in Vilna, 1897 which fought for workers’ rights and the preservation of Yiddish language and culture. The Bund helped form the Russian Social Democratic Party but, owing to opposition Jewish autonomism, periodically left the party. The Bund was suppressed in the Soviet Union but continued flourish in Poland, where its members organized strikes, demonstrations, and self-defense initiatives, sometimes in coordination with the Polish Socialist Party (PPS). See Antony Polonsky, “The Bund in Polish Political Life, 1935-1939”, in Steven Zipperstein and Ada Rapoport-Albert, eds., \u003cem\u003eEssays in Modern Jewish History\u003c/em\u003e (London, 1988).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=146.615,175.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAgudat Yisrael. The most successful orthodox political party, founded at a conference in Katowice, Poland, in 1912 and active in Poland from 1916. Agudat Yisrael enjoyed the sponsorship of Hasidic leaders like R. Avraham Mordecai Alter of Ger and major non-Hasidic leaders like Hayyim Ozer Grodzenski, but was opposed by certain prominent traditionalist leaders. See Gershon C. Bacon, \u003cem\u003eThe Politics of Tradition: Agudat Yisrael in Poland, 1916–1939\u003c/em\u003e (Jerusalem, 1996).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=183.026,201.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eTalmud Torah. Traditionalist Jewish elementary school that tended to instruct orphans and poorer children, funded by the community’s Talmud Torah society in contrast to the heder, which charged nominal tuition. See Nathan Eck, “The Educational Institutions of Polish Jewry (1921-1939), \u003cem\u003eJewish Social Studies\u003c/em\u003e 9:1 (1947); L.H., “‘Chedery’ w Polsce,” \u003cem\u003eSprawy Narodowościowe\u003c/em\u003e 5 (1935), p. 554, rpt. in Rafał Zebrowski, \u003cem\u003eWybór tekstów źródłowych, \u003c/em\u003e1918-1939 (Warsaw: ŻIH, 1993), 111.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=183.026,201.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eTarbut shul. A school founded in Zhetl in 1929 that belonged to Hebraist, Zionist-leaning network. Tarbut incorporated Talmudic and biblical studies into its curriculum; however, Rubin’s attendance suggests his parents’ openness to certain secular influences. By 1939, around 45,000 Jewish children (around 25 percent of children in private Jewish schools) studied in one of the approximately 270 Tarbut schools in Poland. See Kamil Kijek, “Was It Possible to Avoid \"Hebrew Assimilation\" Hebraism, Polonization, and Tarbut Schools in the Last Decade of Interwar Poland,” \u003cem\u003eJewish Social Studies\u003c/em\u003e 21:2 (2016), 105-41; Alfred Doblin, \u003cem\u003eJourney to Poland\u003c/em\u003e (NY, 1991), 104.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=183.026,201.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eDworzec (Dvoretz in Yiddish; currently Dvarec in Belarus). A small town near Zhetl. Dworzec was the site of a labor camp, where around 400 Jews of Zhetl were sent on December 15, 1941. For a personal account, see \u003cem\u003eGrandmother Came from Dworitz. A Jewish story by Ethel Vineberg\u003c/em\u003e (1969).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=202.388,224.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYoizel’s Yeshiva from Novogrodek (Nowógrodek; Navahrudak), Belarus. The yeshiva was established in 1896 and headed by R. Yosef Yoizel Horowitz, the “Elder of Novaradok”. It was the flagship institution of the ascetic mussar movement, which emphasized character development alongside Talmudic scholarship. See David Fishman, “Mussar and Modernity,” in \u003cem\u003eModern Judaism\u003c/em\u003e 8:1 (1988), 41-64.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=202.388,224.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eChumush. The printed Pentateuch with vowel and cantillation marks, usually studied with the aid of medieval commentaries.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=247.31,265.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eTanakh. Acronym for Torah [Pentateuch], Nevi’im [Prophets], and Ketuvim [Writings], also known as the canonized Hebrew Bible.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=247.31,265.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGemara. The portion of the Talmud that forms a commentary on the earlier oral tradition, the Mishnah. Usually the Babylonian version (redacted ~600 CE) that was studied, with the aid of the medieval Ashkenazic commentary Rashi (R. Avraham ben Yitzhaki, d. 1105) and his grandsons, known as the Tosefot.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=247.31,265.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHalf day secular/half day religious. After the Jędzejewicz legislation (1932) made state-sanctioned schools mandatory, Jewish traditionalist parents whose towns lacked state-sanctioned Orthodox (Horev) schools often sent their children to public school and “supplemented” that education with an even lengthier traditionalist Jewish education during afternoons and evenings. See Glenn Dynner, “Replenishing the Fountain of Judaism: Traditionalist Jewish Education in Interwar Poland”, \u003cem\u003eJewish History\u003c/em\u003e 31:3-4 (January, 2018).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=265.43,272.15"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYiddish folkshul. Secular Yiddish schools, founded on the ideals of Bundist (Jewish Socialist) thinkers like Esther Frumkin. Such schools belonged to Di Tsentrale Yidishe Shul-Organizatsye (Central Yiddish School Organization), or TSYSHO, which by the 1920s consisted of 219 institutions containing 24,000 students, mainly in Eastern Poland. See David Fishman, \u003cem\u003eThe Rise of Modern Yiddish Culture\u003c/em\u003e (Pittsburgh, 2005), 83-97.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=290.47,309.417"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA bigger wholesale. Middleman occupations, pursued by Jews for centuries, were part of a peasant-Jewish economic-based symbiosis. However, these arrangements were beginning to be challenged and displaced owing to anti-Jewish boycotts and the creation of peasant cooperatives.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=386.81,408.775"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHousewife. It was actually more typical for women in Jewish society to work at market stalls or small-scale manufacturing. See Susan Glenn, \u003cem\u003eDaughters of the Shtetl: Life and Labor in the Immigrant Generation\u003c/em\u003e (Ithaca, 1990), 8-49; Dynner, “Those who Stayed: Jewish Women, Tradition, \u0026amp; Traditionalism in Eastern Europe,” \u003cem\u003eVolume in Honor of the Opening of the Polin Museum of Jewish History in Poland\u003c/em\u003e, 295-312.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=446.96,447.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eKossov (Pol. Kossow). Currently Kossavo, Belarus. 94 km. from Pinsk. The main slaughter of Kossov Jews occurred on July 25, 1942, but some were rescued by partisans. A harrowing account appears in \u003cem\u003ePinkas kehilat Kosow Poleski\u003c/em\u003e (Jerusalem, 1945); trans. at https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kosava/kos011.html#Page21.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=480.43,506.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePoles. Citizens of Poland and other countries who identified as ethnically Polish. Ethnic Poles, who apparently formed a slim majority in western Belarus, were often favored in appointments to official administrative positions.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=556.801,565.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMayor of Zdzęicioł (Zhetl). Probably Mayor Henryk Poszwiński. He was arrested by the Soviet NKVD near the beginning of the Soviet occupation along with school principals, councilmen, and clergy, imprisoned in Nowogródek, and never heard from again. See Jerzy Robert Nowak, \u003cem\u003ePrzemilczane Zbrodnie\u003c/em\u003e (Warsaw, 1999), 113–115.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=565.05,611.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBy hand. Polish Jews were concentrated in crafts (42.2 percent in 1931) and trade (36.6 percent). In Zhetl, where artisans constituted 64 percent of the Jewish community, there was a Craftsmen Association (est. in 1930).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=621.696,651.91"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eJewish landowners. Historically, Jews had been prevented from buying land, but at this point Jewish landownership was technically legal. Only 4.3 percent of Poland’s Jews were involved in agriculture (1931), compared with 61.4 percent of the general population.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=676.728,686.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eVillage Jews. Rural Jews always formed a minority of Jews in Poland. Historically, they were isolated Jewish families who leased a village or roadside tavern and distillery. After the abolition of the noble liquor monopoly (1898) village Jews plied more diverse trades, including agricultural.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=700.11,720.484"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHectares. One hectare contains about 2.47 acres; an acre is about 0.405 hectare.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=700.11,720.484"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eProfessionals. Rubin seems to mean artisans here.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=724.96,735.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWhite Russians refers to ethnic Belarussians.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=752.33,763.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSince Hitler came to power. The rise of the Nazis to power in neighboring Germany, with its attendant anti-Jewish policies, often served as inspiration for Polish right-wing nationalist movements whose proponents hoped to dislodge Jews from the Polish economy in the way that Hitler’s regime had done.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=768.16,778.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e“don’t buy from Jews”. About half of all mercantile occupations were held by Jews at this time in Poland. The anti-Jewish boycotts, sponsored by the right-wing nationalist Endeks, intensified in the wake of the death of Marshal Józef Piłsudski (1935). Their physical enforcement included intimidation of Jews and their peasant customers alike, and sometimes led to pogroms.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=781.31,805.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHaynt. Popular Yiddish daily newspaper founded by Shmuel Yankev Yatskan in 1906, which took on a Zionist orientation after the First World War. See Joanna Nalewajko-Kulikov, “ ‘\u003cem\u003eDi Haynt-mishpokhe\u003c/em\u003e’: Study for a Group Picture”, in Glenn Dynner and François Guesnet, eds., \u003cem\u003eWarsaw. The Jewish Metropolis\u003c/em\u003e (Leiden, 2015), 252-71.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=815.89,839.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eNot actually the local Poles. Picketing, anti-Jewish boycotts, and pogroms were often organized by outside agitators, who were members of the Endek-inspired Stronnictwo Narodowe (National Front), rather than locals. However, younger peasants were increasingly educated and frustrated by unemployment and the perceived inability to break into mercantile occupations, and were more easily influenced by right-wing nationalist groups.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=859.67,866.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSept. 1, 1939. The German invasion of Poland, which was followed by a Soviet invasion 16 days later.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=931.365,961.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRussian occupation. The Soviets invaded Poland on September 17, in accordance with the secret Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (signed on August 23, 1939). The Soviet Union occupied eastern Poland until June, 1941, when Hitler invaded those areas. Jews often viewed the Soviet occupation as favorable to a potential German occupation. Belarusians and Ukrainians gave Soviet troops warm welcomes, as well. See Jan Gross, \u003cem\u003eRevolution from Abroad: The Soviet Conquest of Poland's Western Ukraine and Western Belorussia\u003c/em\u003e (Princeton, 2002); Norman Davies and Antony Polonsky (eds.), \u003cem\u003eJews in Eastern Poland and the USSR, 1939-46\u003c/em\u003e (London: Palgrave, 1991), esp. 60-76.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=961.09,983.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eConfiscated. The Soviet authorities sought to compel residents in newly acquired territories to abandon capitalism and adopt Communism through such confiscations.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1017.23,1052.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYeshivas closed down. The Soviet regime’s anti-religious policy involved closures of numerous synagogues, yeshivas, and churches alike in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution. Anti-religious campaigns intensified after Stalin’s ascendancy in 1926. See Zvi Gitelman, \u003cem\u003eCentury of Ambivalence: The Jews of Russia and the Soviet Union\u003c/em\u003e (Bloomington, 2001), 78-82.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1182.88,1186.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn the Russian government there was no antisemitism. On January 12, 1931, Joseph Stalin declared, “in the U.S.S.R. antisemitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active antisemites are liable to the death penalty.” Published in \u003cem\u003ePravda\u003c/em\u003e, No. 329 (November 30, 1936). However, antisemitism flourished in other guises, particularly in the post-WWII period. See Gitelman, \u003cem\u003eCentury of Ambivalence\u003c/em\u003e, esp. 117; Joshua Rubenstein, \u003cem\u003eStalin’s Secret Pogrom\u003c/em\u003e (New Haven, 2005).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1249.84,1280.675"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePoles disappeared. Of the 880,000 residents of western Belarus deported beginning on February 8, 1940, 52 percent (457,600) were ethnic Poles. See Shalom Cholawski, \u003cem\u003eThe Jews of Bielorussia during World War II\u003c/em\u003e (Amsterdam, 1998), 27-8.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1284.15,1304.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWe knew what to expect. This seems to contradict an earlier claim that the Jews did not know about conditions and events in German-occupied Poland. It may be that by this time rumors had reached Jews in the Soviet-occupied zone.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1621.47,1637.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHelping them, showing them the Jewish houses. While Polish responses to the German occupation ranged from heroic rescue of Jews to outright collaboration with Germans, Poles in the Belarusian zone often denounced Jews in order to curry favor and compete with local Belarusians for positions within the German administration. See Martin Dean, \u003cem\u003eCollaboration in the Holocaust: Crimes of the Local Police in Belorussia and Ukraine\u003c/em\u003e (NY, 2000), 142.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1707.39,1757.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eJudenrat. Jewish councils that were formed by the Nazis and compelled to carry out Nazi directives, usually composed of prominent Jewish citizens. The record of Judenrat members is mixed. Many are judged complicit in the murder of the Jewish population, but some seemed to do their utmost to stave off deportations through economic productiveness and, in the case of Zhetl, organized resistance. See Isaiah Trunk, \u003cem\u003eJudenrat: the Jewish Councils in Eastern Europe under Nazi Occupation\u003c/em\u003e (Lincoln, 1972).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1851.522,1892.845"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eJewish police. Jews appointed by the Judenrat and compelled to carry out Nazi directives that included abetting deportations and mass killings. Like Judenrat members, their record is mixed, ranging from repeated extortion of fellow Jews to attempts to aid them. Many became Jewish police to save themselves and their families; most were executed after helping to deport their fellow Jews. See anon., \u003cem\u003eThe Clandestine History of the Kovno Jewish Ghetto Police\u003c/em\u003e (Bloomington, IA, 2014), tr. Samuel Schalkowsky, Introduction by Sam Kassow; Katarzyna Person, \u003cem\u003eWarsaw \u003c/em\u003e\u003cem\u003eGhetto Police: The Jewish Order Service during the Nazi Occupation\u003c/em\u003e (NY: Cornell University Press, 2021), tr. Zygmunt Nowak-Soliński; Calel Perchodnik, \u003cem\u003eAm I A Murderer?\u003c/em\u003e (Boulder, 1996).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1851.522,1892.845"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAlter Dvoretsky. An attorney and public figure who was active in Poalei Tsiyon before the war. Elected to the Judenrat, Dvoretsky took advantage of his position to acquire weapons. On April 28, 1941, he fled to the forest and joined up with non-Jewish partisans. See “The Underground in the Zhetl Ghetto” (Shalom Gerling in Baruch Kaplinski, ed., \u003cem\u003ePinkes Zhetl\u003c/em\u003e (Tel Aviv, 1957), 372; tr. A. Patt, https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007243.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1897.225,1920.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e15th of July. Rubin seems to mean July 23 or 25, 1941.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1922.07,1957.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eNowogrodek. A town near Zhetl that was home to many rabbinic luminaries and a burgeoning modern Jewish culture. Massacres of Jews followed a pattern similar to that in Zhetl: the murder of prominent Jewish citizens (August 26, 1941) and subsequent large-scale massacres (three). See Yehuda Bauer, “Nowogrȯdek- The Story of a Shtetl”, \u003cem\u003eYad Vashem Studies\u003c/em\u003e 35:2 (2007), 5-40.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2044.44,2080.484"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cem\u003eSchein\u003c/em\u003e. A work permit (lit. “paper”), primarily for artisans and doctors. By 1942, many Jews believed that their only hope of survival was to obtain these work permits, which declared that the holder was required by the German authorities. A holder could also register his spouse and up to two children. See Leni Yahil, \u003cem\u003eThe Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945\u003c/em\u003e (NY, 1987), 176-9.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2143.31,2172.573"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGhetto. Restricted living area for Jews, established in Zhetl on February 22, 1942 (not November, 1941). After 120 prominent Jews were executed (July 23/25, 1941) and 400 Jews were sent to the Dworzec labor camp\u003cbr\u003e(December 15, 1941), the remaining Jews of the town were confined to a ghetto whose inhabitants grew to around 4,500 due to an influx of around 1,400 Jewish refugees. The first major massacre occurred on April 30, 1942, when Ukrainian, Belarusian, and possibly Lithuanian auxiliary police surrounded the ghetto, escorted Jews to the main square, performed a “selection,” and murdered around 1200 in the Kurpiesze (Kupyash) forest. The Germans liquidated the ghetto on August 6-8. See Shmuel Spector, Geoffrey Wigoder, eds., \u003cem\u003eThe Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust\u003c/em\u003e (New York, 2001), 1498.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2301.298,2333.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePartisan group. Belarus had the largest number of partisans in Eastern Europe (up to 374,000 by 1944), mainly Soviet Soldiers who had been cut-off by the German army. An estimated 12-15,000 of the roughly 23,000 Jews who escaped into the Belarusian forests fought as partisans, while the rest attempted to survive in hiding. Many Zhetl Jews joined the Hirsch Kaplinski and Yehezkel Atlas units, which operated in the Lipczynska (Białowieża) and Naliboki forests. Others joined the Pobieda, Borba, Kovalov, and Bielski groups. See Bauer, “Jewish Resistance in the Ukraine and Belarus during the Holocaust,” 502; idem., “Nowogrȯdek- The Story of a Shtetl”, 23; Cholawski, \u003cem\u003eThe Jews of Bielorussia\u003c/em\u003e, 218; “Partisans,” in Israel Gutman, ed., \u003cem\u003eEncyclopedia of the Holocaust\u003c/em\u003e (NY, 1990), 3:1113.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2532.46,2566.056"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Germans killed about half the population of the ghetto. On April 30, 1942, around 1200 Zhetl Jews were murdered. On August 6-8, 1942, another one thousand ghetto inhabitants were executed in the Kurpiesze forest. Many of the remaining inhabitants were executed in the Jewish cemetery; but around 600 escaped into the surrounding forest and attempted to join partisans. See Spector and Wigoder, eds., \u003cem\u003eThe Encyclopedia of Jewish Life\u003c/em\u003e, 1498 (gives a higher estimate of 800); Cholawski, \u003cem\u003eJews of Bielorussia\u003c/em\u003e, 218.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2628.23,2658.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eShortly after this, Rubin notes that his sister was temporarily spared thanks to his friend’s willingness to claim she was his wife.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2661.685,2690.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e30 th of April, 1941. Actually, 1942, when around 1200 Zhetl Jews were murdered. There is a growing literature on history and memory in Holocaust testimony. For a pioneering work see Berel Lang, \u003cem\u003eThe Future of the Holocaust: Between History and Memory\u003c/em\u003e (Ithaca, 1999).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2661.685,2690.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eUkrainian police. Ukrainian civilians who volunteered for Nazi auxiliary units and participated in round-ups and mass killings. Ukrainian collaboration with the Nazis should be understood in the context of prior Soviet policies towards Ukrainians, which included artificial famines in which around 3,000,000 Ukrainians died, as well as hopes for German support of Ukrainian statehood.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2661.685,2690.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRecht. “right”; signifying the queue with more able-bodied or manually-skilled Jews whose labor could be exploited by the Nazi regime.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2753.055,2787.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLinks. to the “left”, i.e., destined for death.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2753.055,2787.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eResettle for labor- a euphemism for deportation to open air killing sites or death camps.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2789.45,2800.055"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAugust 6, 1942. The final liquidation of the Zhetl Ghetto. Around one thousand inhabitants of the Zhetl Ghetto were executed in the Kurpiesze forest beginning on that day; but around 600 Jews escaped to the forests.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2928.41,2961.69"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLithuanians- similar to Ukrainians, the nationalist aspirations of Lithuanians were frustrated when their presumed capital, Vilna (Vilnius), was awarded to Poland after the First World War. The desire for an ethnically-cleansed Lithuania, as well as simple opportunism, caused some Lithuanians collaborate with the Nazis, including direct participation in mass murderers. See Kazimierz Sakowicz, \u003cem\u003ePonary Diary\u003c/em\u003e (New Haven, 2005); and Snyder, \u003cem\u003eReconstruction of Nations\u003c/em\u003e, esp. chapter 3.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3117.57,3149.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLit. “morning”; or “tomorrow”.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3149.39,3173.405"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA little river: probably the Dziatlovchanka River, a tributary of the Nemen River.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3224.27,3250.492"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRussian partisans were antisemitic. Antisemitism among Soviet partisans sometimes resulted in murders of unarmed and armed Jews. These instances abated with the establishment of a united partisan command in 1942 under the command of General Vasily Chernyshev, known as “Platon”. See Bauer, “Nowogródek- The Story of A \u003cem\u003eShtetl\u003c/em\u003e, 23-4.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3352.57,3415.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAlter Dvoretsky was ambushed and killed on May 11, 1942 by partisans after an unsuccessful attempt to convince them to attack the Germans in Zhetl. See “The Underground in the Zhetl Ghetto”, in Shalom Gerling in Baruch Kaplinski, ed., \u003cem\u003ePinkes Zhetl\u003c/em\u003e (Tel Aviv, 1957), p. 372; tr. A. Patt), available at https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007243.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3352.57,3415.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eArbeitslager/ work camp (33 km). Probably the Dworzec labor camp, where 400 Zhetl Jews were sent on December 15, 1941 to work on an airdrome from which a variety of aircraft flight operations could take place. This camp was actually 140 km from Zhetl, about a 28-hour journey by foot. It is noteworthy that Jews who escaped execution and fled the ghetto were now re-entering a camp, i.e., a space of confinement and violence.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3352.57,3415.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/annotation_set/377/annotation/1771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eOn varying Jewish attitudes towards Jewish police, see anon., \u003cem\u003eClandestine History;\u003c/em\u003e Person, \u003cem\u003eWarsaw Ghetto Police\u003c/em\u003e; Perchodnik, \u003cem\u003eAm I A Murderer?\u003c/em\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3517.1,3546.76"}]},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["mssa_hvt_3038_p1of2_index.xml [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 1","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=27.0,382.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was born in a small town in Poland called Dyatlovo or Zshetl, in Yiddish, west of Lida (WOWW and NY Times Atlas confirm, now in Belarus).  The whole population was only about 7500-8000, and at least 60% were Jews (WOWW: Jewish pop = 2,376; EJ = 4,000).  Our Jewish community was diverse.  The youth were zionist-minded, there were extremists on the right, socialists, and a few communists.\n\nMy father was religious and a member of a religious organization.  I finished Hebrew school and when I was thirteen was sent to yeshiva in a nearby town (Dvovets, which was Eizel Yeshivas from Novogrudok). I was there until 1939.  Half the day was religious and half was academic.  The youth had lots of gatherings to discuss issues, whether or not we were all religious.  On Saturdays, while the other boys played football, we [my brother and I?] were studying with our father.\n\nThere were four of us: I had an elder sister and an elder brother, and a younger sister who perished in 1942.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=27.0,382.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 2","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=382.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My father bought grain and all sorts of produce directly from farmers and sold it to larger buyers in the town.  My mother was very educated, and she did all the housework and raised the children.  Not far from our house lived my mother's sister: that whole family perished.  My father's family was in another city about 100 km towards Pinsk.  He had brothers and sisters and a mother, but I only visited them once, when I was about eight or nine.\nWe used to get together with my mother's family for holidays, and I frequently played with my cousins.  The non-Jews in the city were farmers or administrators in the government.  Jews were shoemakers, tailors, merchants, everything else.  When I was growing up, everyone wore shoes made by hand because manufactured goods had not really reached us yet. There were a few Jews who owned small farms, but not too many.  However, in the villages around our town, there were quite a few Jews who had a few hectares to farm.\nThe relationships between the Jews and the White Russians, and between the Jews and the local Poles, were quite good, but the Poles that came from outside were anti-Semitic.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=382.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 3","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=768.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Since Hitler came to power in 1933 the Poles became different.  In 1937-1938, young Poles came from bigger cities, saying, \"Don't buy from Jews, buy from Poles only.\"\n\nWe all knew about what was going on in Germany from our Jewish newspaper.  We were very scared during those last few years before the war broke out.  The outside Poles planted anti-Semitism among the Poles in our town and some of the White Russians began to turn a cold shoulder toward the Jews.\nIn 1939, when the Germans attacked Poland, the Polish soldiers ran through our town to escape to Russia. The war broke out on September 1.  I think it was September 17 when the Russians came in from the other side of Minsk and occupied our town. Things changed very rapidly.\nI was only fifteen in 1939.\n\nWhen the Russians came we accepted them with open arms, rather than have the Germans.  They behaved very nicely, except that they confiscated the stores from the rich Jews.  But they let the people work for them, and found everyone jobs.  Life went on fine.\n\nUntil then we heard news, though only through the paper, but when the Russians came they concealed what was going on in the other half of Poland.  They told us only what they wanted to tell us.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=768.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 4","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1098.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Even if we had wanted to escape, we couldn't do anything.  The Russians believed if you weren't with them you were against them, so anyone who wanted to leave was an enemy.   Anyway, we didn't have any money or anywhere to go.\n\nWhen the Russian came, all the yeshivas disappeared. Officially, they didn't say we couldn't go to synagogue, but Jews were very afraid.\nWe had to go to Russian schools with all the other children to learn Russian.   The language itself was not hard to learn.  There was no anti-Semitism among the children because according to the Russians everyone was the same.  In fact, the Russians used to punish anti-Semitism.\nThe few Poles who were in the administration before the occupation disappeared, and the Polish farmers behaved carefully.   The occupation lasted nearly two years, and during that time the Russians tried to teach us their ways.  You could not work for yourself, but everyone worked for the government.  That was hard to absorb.  It was a bit difficult, but it was at least safe.\n\nMy father now worked as a buyer in a cooperative under the government.  He got used to the change pretty fast.  We did have less than we were used to, but we had enough to get by.  The Russians always took what our town produced and sent it away, but they let us live.\n\nIn 1941 Hitler attacked Russia ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1098.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 5","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1502.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our city was taken by the Germans officially on the 30th of June 1941, but about eight days later there were some battles close to our town.  The Germans didn't occupy our town with a full army, but they were parachuted in behind the town and attacked the retreating Russians.\n\nDuring that fighting the whole population had to hide in their houses.  Our family hid in the basement for days until the shooting eased.  We were terrified.  We had heard about what the Germans had done and knew what to expect from a German occupation, and that was just how it happened.\nWhen the Germans came in on foot they immediately started to ask the non-Jewish population about the Jews.  We had to give them everything they demanded, our food, bicycles, etc.  Poles from the town helped them out, pointing out which houses were Jewish so that they could be robbed.  Soon they posted placards stating the decrees against Jews: Jews could not walk on the sidewalk, Jews could not possess any gold... a long list.  Right away trouble started.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1502.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 6","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1800.0,2145.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Every day there were new decrees.\n\nSix o'clock was the curfew.  In several cases, some Jews walking from one house to another after six were shot.  Non-Jews were also caught breaking curfew, but only the Jews were shot.\n\nOn the fifteenth of July, they made a Judenrat. They picked ten of the best Jews to become Jewish police.  The head of the Judenrat was a very capable young lawyer, and there were rabbis and other religious men among them.  On July 15, all men from sixteen to sixty were sent to the marketplace.  The Gestapo came and had a big list.  They said anyone whose name was called should go forward.  In that way they took over one hundred and twenty of the men from the upper class of the city.  Local collaborators helped the Germans compile that list.  As a matter fact, the janitor of our school was one of them.  He could speak Yiddish as well as Jew, and he immediately turned to help the Germans.\n\nThey said they were going to take these men to work in a bigger city, but we found out later that they were shot. We found out from peasants who saw it. That was the first atrocity, only a few weeks after they entered our town.\nThe Germans organized work to finish the highway that the Russians had started.  I was a young strong man, so I went to work on it","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=1800.0,2145.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 7","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2145.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Germans gave out documents to the workers, according to their ability, and all the Jews wanted them.  I had the red one, the best kind.\nMy brother had been taken by the Russian army.  We had only one letter from him before the war, and didn't find him again until 1946.\nMy father was no longer working, so I was the only one who was employed.  \nThey did not pay us anything.\n\nIn 1941, in November, the Germans told us to leave our houses and move into a ghetto.  The Jews themselves had to build a fence around it.  We could only take what we could carry.  At that time we had a garden where we buried potatoes each year for subsistence.  In the spring I left the ghetto in the night and returned with smuggled potatoes, which we shared with everyone in the house.\n\nThe living conditions were very bad.  They packed about sixty people in a small house, one on top of the other.\n\nThe Judenrat was very fair, but they were being used by the Germans.  The leader (Alter Dvovetski) organized partisan groups in the ghetto, he mobilized the young people. Since I was working on the highway I had the chance to smuggle in weapon parts.  From time to time the Germans would check our bundles, and anyone caught stealing would be shot.  I was taking a great risk with my life all the time.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2145.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 8","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2619.0,2782.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the basement we put together the rifles.  Only a few young boys ever had the chance to use them.\n\nThe Germans killed about half the Jewish population in 1942, that's when my parents and sister were killed.  With the help of the Ukrainian police they surrounded the ghetto at about five o'clock in the morning.  They started to knock on the windows and scream at us to get out to the cemetery.  When we got there, they told us to stand together in families.  I had the red scheine [certificate], and I had a friend who had one too, so I told him to take my sister and pretend she was his wife.  The Gestapo man saw my scheine and sent me to the right, which was good.  A few steps away stood other Gestapo men, and they let me go through","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2619.0,2782.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 9","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2782.0,3194.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My parents and little sister went to the left.  We were told they were going to a new work settlement, but they later took them behind the town and forced them to undress.  Their graves were already dug.  They shot them fifteen at a time, and they fell one on top of the other.  My older sister survived with my friend.  It was a very bad day: they killed half of the Jewish population in one day, and then they cut the size of the ghetto in half.\n\nI continued to work on that highway.\n\nThough I did not think I would survive, I wanted to avenge their deaths before I died.  That feeling remains.\n\nThat day the Judenrat was also killed.  They kept the rest of us alive until August 6, 1942, when the same thing happened again.  The Germans and the Ukrainian police surrounded the ghetto and chased everyone out into the marketplace.  But that time my sister, my cousins and I hid in a place we had created under the floor.  We were worried about the search dogs, so then we ran to a place outside the ghetto, and went down to the little basement.  There were already fifteen people there.  Through a window we watched the Germans chasing and beating the Jews.  Towards evening we tried to get out, because we knew we could not stay overnight.  Somehow we all tried to get out at once, and caused such a commotion that the Germans found us.  My cousin begged them to spare us, because he was such a good carpenter.  They replied that of course, tomorrow they would take us to the new house.  We knew they meant to kill us.  They pushed us back into the basement and pushed a table against the door.  They posted a guard.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=2782.0,3194.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 10","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3194.0,3502.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To our luck, the post sat down close to the window and fell asleep.  We scratched the cement away from the window and escaped. Two people, one of them an old woman, were unable to escape and stayed in the basement.  The rest of us had made it about ten kilometers out of town when daylight broke.  We hid in some bushes and were lucky to go unnoticed.  The next evening we tried to get further towards the forest where the partisans were.  But we talked to a peasant who told us that the Russian partisans were anti-Semitic and killed the Jewish partisans.  So instead we ran towards a work camp, where we thought we could at least stay alive {The killed a Judenrat leader, Alter Dvovetski}.\n\nWe arrived the next morning and joined the Jewish workers. Our feet were swollen and we were hungry, and the conditions there were worse than we imagined.  There was no where to sleep but outside, there was hardly any food, and people had to carry heavy stones all day.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3194.0,3502.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 11","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3502.0,3699.04167"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977/index/32126/annotation/1793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We really couldn't work yet because of our feet, but the Ukrainians in charge and the Jewish police forced us to work.  The Germans always had a group's own people do the job.  The Jewish police had no choice, they had to do what they were told.\n\nFinally, after about three weeks, I noticed someone from our village who I knew had gone to the forest before the slaughter of the Jews.  I talked to him, and he said he had come to take Jews to the forest.  He drew me a map that would allow me to avoid the villages and certain peasants who helped the Germans.\n\nOne evening I hid behind some stones instead of returning to the camp.  Six of us--my sister, my cousins, two others and I--made it to the forest.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58977#t=3502.0,3699.04167"}]}]},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - open-uri20191201-29465-1oinf5m.mov"]},"duration":3402.455,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/058/978/small/open-uri20191201-29465-1oinf5m_1575214034.jpg?1575214035","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-fortunoff.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/058/978/original/open-uri20191201-29465-1oinf5m.mov?1575214034","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3402.455,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["mssa_hvt_3038_p2of2_transcript.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=0.0,42.245"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: OK. We're ready to start.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=42.245,45.557"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: OK.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=45.557,45.934"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So-- OK. So, can you tell me what happened in the forests of the partisans?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=45.934,50.776"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yeah. Uh, when we came there for the first while, well I was very young, and-- and even though in the ghetto I helped bring in certain parts from rifles or pistols, uh, a person had to own his own rifle or had to-- in order to become a partisan, he could not come in without ammunition. Because most-- most partisans didn't have much to give.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=50.776,91.27"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tBut there was already in existence for the, uh, several weeks, for, uh, they organized a Jewish partisan group. And the, uh-- the head of it was, uh-- his name was Hirsh Kaplinski. He was a leader from the Hashomer Hatzair in our town. And he was also a soldier from the Polish army which knew how to shoot. And he knew something about the military.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=91.27,135.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd we, uh, we asked right away to become partisans. And they told us no, you can help us in any way you want, but you must have--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=135.99,153.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Ammunition.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=153.0,153.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --ammunition-- a rifle or-- or a pistol. And this took a while till I got, uh, from a peasant who was very nice to, uh, to us-- and he knew my father-- from our village. And I went to him and asked him to-- to give me a rifle. Because a lot of the peasants, when the Russian army was running back, they threw away the ammunition.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=153.6,190.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=190.26,190.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And they, uh, got empty-- went to the Germans as prisoners without-- without ammunition, a lot of them. And that was um, towards Fall in 1942 when I got the rifle from my-- from that peasant, the one I knew. And I joined the Jewish group.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=190.71,220.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tThe, uh, Jewish group was under the, uh, the command of-- of a Russian partisan group. And the first time was-- the first while was very good. The Russian partisans were very nice to the-- to the Jewish partisans, and they, uh-- we helped each other.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=220.89,249.92"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tBut later on, after the big searching in 1942, in December, late in December, the Germans pulled up-- pulled away from the battlefront several divisions of tanks. And-- and-- for searching the partisans in the forests, they wanted to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=249.92,274.576"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Try to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=274.576,275.428"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to destroy them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=275.428,277.155"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=277.155,278.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And that was actually the worst time being a partisan, because it was so-- we got hit so heavy--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=278.37,287.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=287.09,288.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --that ah it took a long time to-- for the survivors to get together again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=288.26,293.64"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. But you were just dispersed all over.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=293.64,296.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We were dispersed, hiding, each one--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=296.19,298.12"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. --wherever he could.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=298.12,300.27"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So were you-- were you with your sister during that time?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=300.27,301.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was with my sister all the time\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=301.85,303.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So you managed to stick together.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=303.28,304.393"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We stuck together all the time, and--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=304.393,306.473"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=306.473,307.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --somehow, in 1943, we started to organize again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=307.28,312.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=312.61,313.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=313.81,314.21"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So what did you do in between all the time? Were you just living in the forests?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=314.21,318.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Living in the forest--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=318.13,319.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Trying to get food and--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=319.28,321.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, food we used to try to get when the, uh-- in places where the Germans were not around. In some villages, we used to get food from the village people. They helped us out. They were sympathizing with us.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=321.38,337.237"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=337.237,338.131"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, the, uh, the bad thing was that a lot of the partisans running from the Germans became ill. Typhus spread very badly--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=338.131,354.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t--and a lot of-- a lot of partisans died from typhus.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=354.08,358.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=358.18,359.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Also, the, uh, the-- there was-- besides the partisan were also so many groups. In other words, family groups were hiding. They were always sticking by the-- close to the partisans. And the partisans defended them, always.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=359.35,376.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tBut in time when the Germans were attacking heavy, soon, everybody was running and hiding wherever he could. And in 1943, we organized again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=376.97,391.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: You all came together again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=391.58,392.948"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Mhm. We got together and organized some groups. But there wasn't a separate Jewish group anymore.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=392.948,401.787"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So you were all together--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=401.787,403.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We were together with the Russians.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=403.67,405.045"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And did that work out OK? Was there friction between--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=405.045,409.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. There was a certain anti-Semitism in the, uh, in the partisans, but, uh, we could live with it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=409.28,418.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So what sort of-- what-- as partisans, what sort of, um, activities, or what sort of--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=418.43,424.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, there was practically activities every-- every moment.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=424.81,429.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=429.39,429.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We use to attack certain garrisons of the Germans. The Germans tried to put in in the heart of the forest and the villages, the bigger villages, posts, like a German post, naturally with Ukrainians, mainly Ukrainians and Lithuanians. And we always tried to stop them to do it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=429.85,459.986"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=459.986,461.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: How did you-- so how did they...\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=461.48,462.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: When we found out, uh, that they are going to do it, they are going to put the post, we used to attack-- uh, wait for them, before they reached a village, and attack them and chase them back. But many times they came unnoticed. And they, uh, they dug in themselves with heavy machine weapons--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=462.85,495.516"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=495.516,496.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --good weapons, better than ours, naturally.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=496.46,498.695"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=498.695,499.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And it was hard to take them. We used to attack also sometimes with many costs of life.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=499.61,505.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm? Mhm. So it was very frightening--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=505.87,510.63"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: To us, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=510.63,511.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --to you. I mean, you lived-- you lived in the forest, as a partisan, always in fear of either being attacked or--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=511.2,518.318"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Or attack--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=518.318,519.136"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Or attacking.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=519.136,519.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But we actually knew-- the Jewish partisans knew that we will never survive. So the only thing was, while we are alive, to take revenge.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=519.94,533.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. That was your feeling all the time.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=533.49,536.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That was the feeling--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=536.09,536.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=536.9,537.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to take revenge for the-- for the innocent people they killed, like f--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=537.1,542.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=542.45,542.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --for not-- for no reason at all.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=542.89,544.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=544.98,545.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, that revenge kept us alive, to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=545.93,551.27"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: To keep going.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=551.27,551.955"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to keep going--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=551.955,552.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=552.77,553.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --fighting.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=553.66,554.105"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Is that re-- is that revenge ever satisfied, in any way? I mean--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=554.105,559.016"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, no.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=559.016,559.462"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --you still feel it now.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=559.462,561.376"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, it wasn't satisfying. You did it because you had no choice--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=561.376,569.255"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t--to take revenge. But, uh, no, no satisfaction in killing anybody at all.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=569.255,576.266"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm. So it's not-- it's not something-- I mean, do you think that most people feel like you do about this?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=576.266,585.112"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I, uh, think so, they were, the times were so bad that you had to survive. In order to survive, you had to defend yourself-- or attack. And attacking, we also attacked-- we had, uh, in 1943, we had some parachutes from the Russian front, from Moscow, to-- to give us and also leaders to, uh-- to give us information and also command how to derail trains and to see that the enemy, the Germans, will not get all they gather from the-- from the peasants, lots of cattle and clothing. And they should not get it to the, to the battlefront, to fight against the Russians.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=585.112,648.575"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=648.575,648.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So we-- our job was to destroy some of the echelons of this type of food or ammunition going to the battlefront. And not far from the forest was the main line, going through Lida- Baranowicz, towards Minsk, toward the battlefront. And we tried to derail as many or destroy as many trains as we--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=648.93,678.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm, as you could.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=678.11,679.388"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's why.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=679.388,680.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And-- and was your sis-- were there quite a few women involved in the partisans?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=680.44,684.262"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=684.262,684.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: There were. And they did the same things as you did.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=684.71,687.02"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: They did the same thing. Most women did the, uh, like, the cooking or the, uh, the housework or the, uh, n-- nurses in the hospital.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=687.02,698.125"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=698.125,699.3"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But, uh, there were also-- we had women also fighting like the men.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=699.3,703.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=703.52,704.226"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And they were very good at it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=704.226,705.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm. Are there-- are there other things that you can-- about-- about being you know, a member of the partisans' group that you would like to talk about?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=705.35,717.678"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=717.678,718.159"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Any particular experiences that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=718.159,720.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes, uh-- the, uh, for winter, for example, we used to dig, um, bunkers, like, foxholes, in the ground. And we made it big enough to, uh-- for-- for the groups to get in...they were able to stay...\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=720.33,744.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: How big were the groups, about?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=744.97,747.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, the, uh-- some-- some bunkers were as big as this room.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=747.48,754.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Really.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=754.48,755.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And in the ground, special for the heavy winters, we used to cover it with, uh-- uh, with big branches of the trees--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=755.47,766.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: To keep you warm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=766.05,768.002"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: The-- the-- the-- they were covered with earth, actually, but not too far out of the ground. Shouldn't be any-- the Germans shouldn't see it with planes. And the best time was actually the summer, where we could sleep-- and, uh, sleeping. At night, we weren't sleeping. We were always going to do some work to derail trains or cut the telephone poles.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=768.002,798.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=798.31,798.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So. Or attack German garrisons. But the summer was a lot easier to get through than winter.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=798.61,809.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So there-- there were a lot of very hard times, then.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=809.33,813.36"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: The times? Yes, it was very hard.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=813.36,815.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=815.53,817.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, this lasted till-- we were liberated actually in 1944, in July--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=817.29,825.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=825.78,827.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --when the, uh, Germ-- the Germans were-- the Russians were pushing the Germans back.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=827.41,835.265"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=835.265,835.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And the last-- the last month from June, uh, must have been the 7th of June till our liberation on the, uh, 8th of July, was the worst, actually, in the forest.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=835.68,854.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. What-- in what way was it the worst?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=854.56,856.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, the, um, Germans brought the Vlasov's army. Vlasov was a Russian, or Ukrainian, general who gave himself over to the Germans. And he helped the Germans. He organized a fighting group with the Germans, against the partisans, mainly against the partisans. Anywhere where the Germans were afraid to go in the forest to, to search for partisans, they were not afraid.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=856.86,892.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So they-- they'd come to search for the partisans--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=892.16,894.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: They came-- they put up posts practically in every village around the forest. They used to go every day to look for us. And we had a very bad time. A lot of surviving partisans vanished in this, in this month.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=894.31,912.21"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So the group was cut down quite a lot in that month.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=912.21,917.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=917.53,917.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: That was just before liberation.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=917.93,919.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That was very close to liberation.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=919.7,921.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Were you-- were you-- were there any times that you came close to being caught?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=921.75,925.955"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=925.955,926.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=926.24,926.672"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --yes. Matter of fact, one day I went with, uh, with two other young boys, to find out what's going on. And we knew the Russian front is very close. And we came to a house where a peasant was living there, who was very sympathetic to the partisans. And we wanted-- we went for two reasons-- to get some food, and to find out what's going on in the city.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=926.672,969.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd, as we came close to knocking-- knock on the window, from behind the barn came out about six tall people in-- in the, uh-- in the German uniforms, which was made special for these Vlasov's army, for these Ukrainians. But they were carrying the rifles with the butts up, so--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=969.93,1005.25"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd, just from excitement, from scared, we started to talk to them in Russian. And they answered us in Russian and said to us, don't-- don't-- we are not going to shoot you. We want to-- we want to give ourselves over to the partisans.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1005.25,1024.994"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: These men said this to you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1024.994,1026.562"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: These men said to us.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1026.562,1027.028"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So what went through your head? Did you feel you could trust them, or--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1027.028,1030.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, we had no choice.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1030.29,1031.849"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1031.849,1032.54"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, um, they had actually their wives and children. They had horse and buggy. They had food in their ba-- in-- in the uh buggies.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1032.54,1046.869"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd they sat and we started to talk and said the front is not very far. And we want to give ourselves over to the partisans. And they tried-- they found excuses that they always were sympathetic to the partisans but they had no choice.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1046.869,1065.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd we made up that one of us will stay with them, and one of them will go with us to-- to-- to the commandant from the partisans. We couldn't do ourselves. We couldn't accept them ourselves. We had to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1065.67,1084.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1084.62,1085.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --take them to the brigade. And we-- we left one of our, of our boys there, and one went with us. We brought them deeper in the forest. And they told the commandant, if we don't go and bring the others, they will kill-- the rest will kill the-- the young man who stayed with them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1085.49,1111.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1111.62,1113.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So, we sent a delegation and brought them to the forest. And happened about four days later, the Russian army came and liberated us.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1113.66,1125.392"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1125.392,1125.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we gave them over to the Russians.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1125.84,1127.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So that-- that worked out OK. That was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1127.31,1130.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That worked out OK.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1130.6,1131.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --very close, there.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1131.59,1132.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But it was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1132.04,1132.79"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah. Whoo!\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1132.79,1133.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --it was death in the instant, if-- if he would act differently.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1133.71,1139.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1139.33,1141.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So, by luck, we-- we started to talk to them in Russian--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1141.67,1146.12"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: In Russian, yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1146.12,1146.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and they answered right away, and-- and that's-- that's how we stayed alive.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1146.49,1151.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And-- and I suppose there were many incidences like that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1151.87,1155.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yeah, there were a lot of incidents--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1155.45,1156.286"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --very close.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1156.286,1157.098"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --very close, of this type--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1157.098,1158.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1158.93,1159.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --in last-- in the last while. The partisans had some contact with this-- with Vlasov's army, especially the last month, because he knew that the Germans already are pushed back. And they thought maybe they will rescue themselves by giving themselves over or keeping contact with the partisans.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1159.32,1186.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1186.41,1188.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But they were taken as prisoners of war--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1188.13,1192.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1192.09,1192.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --the same as anybody else.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1192.37,1193.726"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So, can you-- can you tell me a little bit about what happened after-- after you were liberated, in 1944?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1193.726,1201.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. Many of the liberated were mobilized right away to go to the battlefront.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1201.93,1214.695"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1214.695,1216.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was, uh, I was mobilized by-- that was an army recruiting office. So they-- they trusted only the Jewish-- Jewish partisans, because they knew that we can be trusted the most.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1216.82,1238.28"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Trusted, mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1238.28,1239.496"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we were in charge of taking records to-- to Novoyelna, which is about 12 kilometers from our town, we-- where the railroad is, to the railroad station, and take them to Baranowicz, which was another 45 kilometers by-- with a train. And we used to take some records to Novoyelna, to the train, by train to Baranowicz, to give them over to the Russian army.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1239.496,1277.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So you did that until the end of the war, until--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1277.0,1280.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I did that till, uh, February 1945.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1280.08,1287.988"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1287.988,1289.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: In February 19-- in February or January, came a Polish delegation to our town. And anybody who was born under the Polish government were allowed to go into Poland. So I registered, with my sister, and a lot of others did.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1289.82,1310.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tAnd since the Russians found out that we registered, they didn't trust us anymore.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1310.78,1315.92"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: 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Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1325.136,1325.5"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We came to Lodz--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1325.5,1327.156"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: 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No. And, from Lodz, we proceeded, in early 1946, to Germany, to-- and we came to Bergen-Belsen--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1338.212,1353.865"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1353.865,1354.12"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --in 1946. And there we-- in Lodz, actually, we found out-- when the war ended, when the people came from the concentration camp, the survivors. 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And how was it-- how was it, during that time? Was it still very difficult, even though the war had ended?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1391.38,1397.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, it was just a camp where the Jews were there, 'till, waiting for immigration, some to Israel-- or Palestine, then--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1397.81,1410.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1410.19,1410.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And some to Canada, some to other countries.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1410.57,1412.666"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: To America, mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1412.666,1414.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I applied for Canada, with my brother.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1414.01,1418.98"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So, your-- when did you meet up with your brother again?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1418.98,1422.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My brother we found in-- being in Bergen-Belsen.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1422.37,1426.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Really? How? Can you tell me how that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1426.34,1428.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\thappened\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1428.16,1428.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1428.52,1429.585"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Because there were many people there, weren't there?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1429.585,1431.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's right. Somebody came through and said, your name is Pinsky? And he said yes. He says, uh, I saw a Pinksy in a camp in-- on the, uh, American side. Bergen-Belsen was on the English side, English zone.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1431.86,1453.768"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1453.768,1454.254"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: On the American side. And he's, uh, a leader in a kibbutz. We also had kibbutzim in the--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1454.254,1463.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1463.55,1463.965"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --in the camps. And, um, and he's a short man, short fellow. And, uh, curly hair, which he had. And then we found Dovid-- said right away, that must be our brother. So my sister went--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1463.965,1488.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: You must have been very excited to hear--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1488.11,1490.026"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Very excited. And they brought him to Bergen-Belsen.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1490.026,1492.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1492.77,1493.185"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we are together, all three of us.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1493.185,1495.524"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1495.524,1496.895"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: It was a very-- biggest excitement--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1496.895,1499.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: I'm sure.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1499.67,1500.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to have somebody alive in the family.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1500.87,1503.195"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah, yeah. And then, did you all three decide that you would like to emigrate to Canada?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1503.195,1511.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, my sister married in Bergen-Belsen.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1511.01,1513.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1513.76,1514.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So I and my brother applied, and we came as tailors.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1514.65,1520.25"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Why did you decide to come to Canada--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1520.25,1524.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, we wanted to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1524.05,1525.74"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --and not to Palestine?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1525.74,1527.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to be free, to, to start living in a free-- in a-- like a free people.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1527.08,1533.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1533.11,1534.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And that was the closest, the first opportunity they had-- Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1534.01,1540.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to, uh-- to emigrate.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1540.87,1543.426"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1543.426,1543.91"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we wanted to leave the country where our parents vanished. And we didn't want to stay anymore in Europe.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1543.91,1555.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So you decided to come to Canada with your brother.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1555.76,1558.385"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1558.385,1558.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --with your brother.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1558.77,1559.163"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1559.163,1559.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And when-- when did-- when did you actually come to Canada?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1559.95,1563.856"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We arrived in Canada on the, uh, 17th of January, 1948.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1563.856,1571.786"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And how did you come across? By boat?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1571.786,1574.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: By boat.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1574.31,1575.247"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1575.247,1577.682"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: It was a cattle boat, actually. The name was \u003ci\u003eGeneral\u003c/i\u003e \u003ci\u003eSturgis.\u003c/i\u003e And they, uh, took, uh, 11 days to cross the ocean.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1577.682,1591.367"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1591.367,1592.301"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I think at least 8 days of the 11 I was sick.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1592.301,1595.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Really! So you had seasickness, yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1595.62,1597.895"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. I was very weak. I weighed only about 110 pounds. And, uh, I wasn't strong enough. And when we arrived to Halifax, we--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1597.895,1615.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And your sister--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1615.88,1617.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And my sister stayed in--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1617.41,1618.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: She stayed?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1618.7,1619.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --Bergen-Belsen. She came actually later.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1619.09,1621.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1621.71,1622.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Awhile\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1622.95,1623.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Were you upset to be split up from her?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1623.26,1625.92"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, but, uh--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1625.92,1627.12"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: But you accepted that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1627.12,1627.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1627.78,1628.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: couldn't help it--she and her husband came several months later.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1628.66,1632.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1632.6,1634.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we made-- we stayed in Montreal.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1634.38,1639.003"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1639.003,1639.356"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: We stopped in Montreal.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1639.356,1640.3"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Did you come over with a whole lot of other survivors who were immigrating to Canada? Was the boat full of-- of Jewish--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1640.3,1649.465"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, Jews--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1649.465,1650.235"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --people?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1650.235,1650.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and also non-Jews.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1650.55,1651.705"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1651.705,1652.537"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: About 800 people.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1652.537,1654.54"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1654.54,1656.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And there were a lot of Jewish people there, and we-- you had a choice to stay in Montreal or--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1656.31,1663.036"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1663.036,1663.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --go on to Winnipeg, or come to Vancouver. But--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1663.44,1666.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So you--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1666.52,1668.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --we choose-- we chose the first thing to stay in Montreal, because we were tired of--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1668.01,1673.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Traveling.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1673.08,1673.745"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --traveling and tired of-- and we wanted to start living like human beings.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1673.745,1678.633"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So, what happened when you got to Montreal? What did you and your brother do? How old were you, by now? You were--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1678.633,1684.762"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My brother's three years older than I am.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1684.762,1686.925"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1686.925,1687.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: He lives in Winnipeg, now.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1687.37,1688.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1688.72,1690.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Uh, I, uh, applied to Jewish teachers' seminary. And, uh, even though it was only February, which was the middle of the, uh, the school lessons, the, uh-- it took three years in the-- to become a teacher from-- for the grades 1, 2, and 3.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1690.01,1719.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1719.42,1720.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, um, I was given a test, in Hebrew and Yiddish. And they put me into the second class right away.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1720.32,1729.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1729.83,1731.231"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And even though it was the middle of the year, so I only started till the--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1731.231,1738.69"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Middle of June, or something?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1738.69,1740.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Till June '49.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1740.34,1742.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1742.05,1742.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And then again, I-- I became a teacher. And I was sent to Winnipeg, to my first assignment, to teach in the Jewish school, the volksschule, in--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1742.45,1754.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1754.61,1755.422"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --Winnipeg.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1755.422,1755.828"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And your brother, did he-- he come--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1755.828,1758.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: He-- he went in a factory, in a-- in a sewing factory.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1758.26,1763.944"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1763.944,1764.892"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, he was a tailor, yep.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1764.892,1768.156"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. How was your-- how was it, when you first came to Canada? Were people kind to you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1768.156,1772.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Very nice.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1772.97,1773.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1773.95,1774.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: They were wonderful to us, here.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1774.44,1776.14"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1776.14,1776.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: There, they are helping us. We didn't know English at all--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1776.56,1780.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1780.8,1781.22"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --not even one word of English. And, ah, we got a lot of help from the Jewish--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1781.22,1788.865"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Community.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1788.865,1789.3"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: population\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1789.3,1789.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1789.84,1790.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --the Jewish community. Jewish Congress helped a lot, to they arranged for us to learn English. And I enjoyed very much studying again, and continued studying--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1790.86,1810.056"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1810.056,1810.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --in the Jewish teachers' seminary. Which was mostly Hebrew, Yiddish. And I had made a lot of friends in Montreal.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1810.41,1823.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. [COUGH] So then you moved off to Winnipeg. And you had to start all over again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1823.77,1829.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right. I, uh, I was sent to Winnipeg as a teacher.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1829.13,1833.194"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1833.194,1834.661"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I was teaching in the-- the Perets school, Perets Volksschule. And I met, uh, my wife. She's a Winnipegger.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1834.661,1846.027"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1846.027,1846.901"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we married in 1951.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1846.901,1849.794"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Was that a very happy day for you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1849.794,1853.088"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That was a very happy day.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1853.088,1854.492"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1854.492,1856.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, continued my life in Winnipeg, lived in Winnipeg for 20 years.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1856.37,1862.646"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And were you-- were you teaching, all that time?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1862.646,1865.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was teaching only three years.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1865.24,1866.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And you-- you have, um, some children.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1866.95,1871.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I have three children.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1871.2,1872.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh, can you tell me a little bit about them?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1872.49,1874.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes. My daughter's a lawyer, here.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1874.47,1876.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And how old is she now?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1876.62,1879.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: She is, uh, going to be 30 years old.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1879.23,1883.758"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And she lives in Vancouver?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1883.758,1886.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Lives in Vancouver.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1886.48,1887.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1887.41,1887.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My son is a lawyer--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1887.66,1888.84"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1888.84,1889.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --lives in Vancouver.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1889.32,1891.455"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And how old is he?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1891.455,1892.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: He is 28.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1892.13,1894.737"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1894.737,1895.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I have a third son who is studying law in Edmonton University.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1895.99,1903.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mm. So they're all three lawyers.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1903.88,1906.492"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1906.492,1906.984"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. How many years after you were married did you have, um, your daughter, you first child?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1906.984,1912.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My daughter was [LAUGH] born, uh, nine and a half months after we got married.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1912.87,1917.215"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: (LAUGHING) After you were married. Oh. So you had children right away.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1917.215,1920.478"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1920.478,1920.886"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1920.886,1921.294"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I had the first child right away.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1921.294,1922.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And what did you after you stopped teaching?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1922.83,1925.665"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was in real estate--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1925.665,1927.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1927.94,1928.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --together with my brother.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1928.56,1929.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1929.7,1930.135"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: In an office.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1930.135,1931.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1931.44,1932.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we did very well.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1932.31,1934.024"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. So you-- that's what you did in Winnipeg for the-- most of the time, you were in real estate.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1934.024,1939.14"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1939.14,1940.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And where-- is there-- were you very much a part of the Jewish community in--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1940.01,1947.12"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1947.12,1947.933"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1947.933,1948.64"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1948.64,1949.34"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Did you ever talk to your children about your-- your family and your experience during the war?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1949.34,1954.13"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, and, matter of fact, the children wanted to know a lot about my, uh-- the way I survived. I used to tell them-- they were very interested, altogether.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1954.13,1964.37"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1964.37,1965.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I bought, uh, anything available, in books--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1965.09,1970.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1970.1,1970.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And they were reading. And they were very sympathetic and very helpful.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1970.7,1976.234"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So-- so that's something that you've been able to talk to your children about, from-- for many years, then.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1976.234,1985.052"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1985.052,1985.508"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1985.508,1986.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And they were always asking questions.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1986.42,1989.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1989.93,1991.226"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: To them, I, uh, used to tell openly everything.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1991.226,1997.272"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1997.272,1997.654"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: When I talked-- when I told them the stories, it-- I didn't, uh, live it through again.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1997.654,2005.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2005.11,2005.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But somehow, to strangers, I could not tell the stories.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2005.95,2009.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: You couldn't.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2009.53,2009.91"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I always felt that I'm living it over again. And I just couldn't--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2009.91,2016.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2016.87,2017.095"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --couldn't talk about it--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2017.095,2018.385"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. So it--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2018.385,2019.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --too much.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2019.06,2019.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --it was easier for you to talk to your children about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2019.39,2021.706"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2021.706,2022.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. Is it-- has-- have you been feeling like that, today, talking about it?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2022.39,2027.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, today I feel fine. I--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2027.01,2028.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: OK.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2028.95,2029.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I feel that I'm sharing my experiences--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2029.93,2033.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2033.71,2035.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and some-- it's-- if anybody wants to know about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2035.59,2040.388"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. Well, that's good. Do you-- do you feel that, um, your-- your experiences, um, in any way, helped you bringing up your children, that-- that it was-- that there were things that you learned through going through those tough times?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2040.388,2054.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. Uh-- uh, for example, that, uh, they have to fend for themselves--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2054.32,2062.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2062.62,2063.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and they have to be self-sufficient, and, uh, not to be afraid to-- to stand up for your own rights. I mean, I always taught them to be-- to be, uh, proud of being Jewish--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2063.01,2081.995"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2081.995,2083.792"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and, uh, and not to listen to people who say that this-- that the Holocaust never happened.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2083.792,2091.94"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2091.94,2092.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Uh, I told them that they should always, if you come in a, in, uh, circumstances where they were told-- they hear from someone that, uh, it didn't happen, some anti-Semitic, uh, uh, folks, they should defend and stand up for their right, that it did happen and their father went through it all.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2092.85,2120.971"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Hmm. So that was something that you-- you taught them, from a young age.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2120.971,2126.922"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right. I always told them. That's why I-- when they wanted to know what happened to me, so I always told them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2126.922,2135.107"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2135.107,2135.921"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I felt-- to them, I felt, uh, that, talking to them, I felt-- didn't feel-- didn't seem to be hard to tell them the story.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2135.921,2146.578"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, that's-- that's wonderful. I'm sure that they appreciated that, always.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2146.578,2150.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes. They did. They always did appreciate it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2150.75,2153.6"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And-- and-- and-- then, when-- when did you move from Winnipeg to Vancouver?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2153.6,2160.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, I, um, moved to Regina in 1970. I bought a hotel there. And, uh, I, uh, lived in Regina till 1977. My-- my hotel, unfortunately, burned down.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2160.05,2180.287"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Oh, I'm sorry to-- how-- how did that happen?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2180.287,2182.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, some people, uh, some guests in a room smoked and fell asleep. And a fire broke out. But nobody got hurt.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2182.86,2196.14"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2196.14,2198.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2198.01,2198.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So that-- that-- but that-- that must have been a very hard thing for you to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2198.95,2202.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, it was very hard for me to take.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2202.38,2205.15"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2205.15,2205.546"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And we moved to Vancouver.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2205.546,2206.986"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And are you working, at the moment?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2206.986,2210.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, I'm going to go in real estate right now.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2210.88,2213.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And your brother, is he here?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2213.4,2218.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My-- my brother is still in Winnipeg.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2218.85,2221.163"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And your sister?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2221.163,2222.36"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And my sister lives here in Vancouver, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2222.36,2225.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And are you-- you're all three still very close to one another.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2225.04,2228.976"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. Oh, yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2228.976,2230.18"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Does she have children?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2230.18,2231.87"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, my sister unfortunately, uh, is divorced.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2231.87,2237.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2237.19,2238.102"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And she's all alone.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2238.102,2240.313"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2240.313,2242.125"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But, uh, practically every day I talk to her.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2242.125,2245.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And was she close to your children?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2245.09,2247.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, very close.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2247.81,2248.675"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So, has she spoken to them about her experiences during the war also?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2248.675,2252.48"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, yes, when they ask her, they-- she tells them, too.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2252.48,2255.79"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2255.79,2256.97"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: When-- only when they ask her. It's not so easy to talk about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2256.97,2262.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2262.2,2262.31"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But, uh, when you-- when you are asked, usually you tell what happened.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2262.31,2269.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm. Well, that's-- that-- not everybody, um, deals with it in the way that you have. Some people don't like to talk about it to their children.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2269.9,2279.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2279.44,2280.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2280.39,2281.17"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But I feel--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2281.17,2282.64"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Because I think that's brave of you, and-- to be able to do it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2282.64,2285.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I feel that, uh, that people should know what happened.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2285.7,2289.92"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm, mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2289.92,2290.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And that it's the right time to-- to tell really what, uh-- that it did happen and all the-- all of the atrocities and killings for innocent people.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2290.93,2305.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2305.41,2305.88"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I feel that, uh, people should know about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2305.88,2308.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm, mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2308.23,2308.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: The world should know about it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2308.7,2310.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So did you bring your children up, um, in-- in-- as-- in as orthodox way as you were brought up, when 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And, uh, instead of being orthodox, I quit being orthodox. In other words, I protested.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2318.25,2348.645"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. What did you start to doubt? Did you start--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2348.645,2352.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, I mean, to-- to-- leading a religious life.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2352.53,2355.865"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2355.865,2356.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Like, I used to pray every day, and--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2356.06,2358.743"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2358.743,2359.096"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --there wasn't a day that I didn't--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2359.096,2361.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Did it lose some of its meaning for you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2361.42,2363.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. I turned the other way. In other words, I doubted. And I protested against God by not, uh, not, uh, praying, or--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2363.86,2376.06"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2376.06,2376.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --or not-- uh, especially, I-- I was against praying all the time.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2376.77,2385.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2385.11,2386.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Because I feel-- I felt that, if there is a God, why doesn't-- why doesn't he show something, when the Germans killed Jews so openly--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2386.16,2395.93"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2395.93,2396.19"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --under the open sky?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2396.19,2397.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2397.59,2398.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Why isn't something happening to the, to the murderers? And I-- even knowing all, uh, studying in the yeshiva, even knowing all and praying, doing the prayers, I turned against it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2398.45,2416.32"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And have you remained that way--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2416.32,2418.23"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2418.23,2418.67"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --ever since then?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2418.67,2419.55"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2419.55,2420.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So, you didn't-- your children didn't have a Jewish education 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then--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2427.31,2429.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Not a religious but a Jewish education.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2429.52,2430.675"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Jewish 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I-- I belong to a synagogue. And-- and I, uh-- my-- my wife is actually religious.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2439.05,2447.2"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2447.2,2448.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And I did it because of her. I even-- I got-- I go to shul holidays. And, matter of fact, we go many Friday nights to-- to the synagogue now--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2448.03,2457.38"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2457.38,2457.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --now. But deep in my heart I still have that protest\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2457.71,2463.085"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2463.085,2464.01"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, my children went to the Talmud Torah and they, uh-- and they know the Hebrew.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2464.01,2472.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2472.68,2473.117"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And they know the, uh, prayers, in-- in Hebrew. They know it very well, all three of them. But, uh, myself, I still have--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2473.117,2483.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. But-- so that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2483.66,2485.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t[INTERPOSING VOICES]\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2485.09,2486.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: But you've-- you've kept that in yourself. You haven't said to your children-- you haven't, um, prevented your children?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2486.09,2493.3"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, no.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2493.3,2493.74"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2493.74,2494.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No. I let them have their own way.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2494.26,2496.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2496.47,2497.43"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, they-- they come to synagogue every holiday--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2497.43,2501.96"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2501.96,2502.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --high holidays. And they don't, uh, have to read the English side, they read the Hebrew. They know the Hebrew.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2502.03,2511.635"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So, in some ways, you feel good about that. But, on the other hand, you still have something that you doubt, whether that's--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2511.635,2518.961"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\t[INTERPOSING VOICES]\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2518.961,2519.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, the-- the doubting, I-- I have only in-- in praying, in the prayers.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2519.44,2525.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2525.7,2526.5"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Somehow, I protested against the prayers.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2526.5,2529.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2529.83,2530.714"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That if there is a God, why didn't he help?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2530.714,2535.105"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2535.105,2535.42"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Why didn't he prevent all this? And mainly, the-- the religious Jews, they were massacred first. Very few religious Jews escaped to the forest and stayed-- and-- and survived.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2535.42,2555.882"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2555.882,2556.866"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So, somehow, I protested.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2556.866,2559.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2559.65,2560.413"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I still protest.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2560.413,2563.036"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Did you-- did you, as a young, um, boy in-- in Poland, feel-- have any idea about a career that you wanted to have for yourself, something that you would like to have done if the war hadn't broken out?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2563.036,2575.54"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, first of all, we never-- I-- I never believed that I will survive.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2575.54,2583.053"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2583.053,2583.536"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So I couldn't plan any-- anything ahead. Because there was 99% that we will not survive.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2583.536,2593.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2593.45,2594.44"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: It was, the circumstance was so bad, all the time, in the forest, that, uh, there are no chance of surviving. And we survived. Very few survived, actually.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2594.44,2610.33"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tIn-- when they liquidated the ghetto in 1942, in August, uh, several hundred escaped to the forest, uh, maybe up to 500. And, uh, the surviving amount was only 40.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2610.33,2632.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mm. So it was very few.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2632.65,2635.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So very few survived, and they are spread all over the world--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2635.11,2638.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2638.03,2639.1"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --a lot of them in Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2639.1,2640.468"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mm. But I'm-- there-- I think what I'm trying to ask is, your children are all becoming-- are all professionals. You have--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2640.468,2648.595"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Aha.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2648.595,2648.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --going to have three lawyers in your 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yeah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2651.055,2651.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2651.47,2652.3"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And did you, as a young-- as a young boy, before the war broke out, before there was trouble, did you have any ideas about what you would like to 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Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2666.946,2667.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's what my father wanted.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2667.51,2669.343"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2669.343,2670.07"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And that's what he sent me to yeshiva for.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2670.07,2673.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: So you--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2673.9,2674.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And that was the only--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2674.16,2675.26"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2675.26,2675.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --thing I was striving for.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2675.68,2677.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. So that-- obviously, that changed. Ah?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2677.4,2680.07"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yeah. It changed, as I said--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2680.07,2682.39"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Because--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2682.39,2682.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --after the first and second pogroms--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2682.83,2685.58"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2685.58,2685.95"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --when they killed the Jews.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2685.95,2688.045"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And did you encourage your children to-- to do law? Or was that something that--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2688.045,2692.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No, that's something they chose themselves.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2692.24,2695.51"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2695.51,2696.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Which I am very grateful, and I am very happy for them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2696.85,2699.65"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2699.65,2701.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But they chose it in their own way.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2701.71,2703.982"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. But you must have-- you must have, um, emphasized their edu-- that they have good education, and that they work well--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2703.982,2712.24"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2712.24,2712.412"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: --and so on, so that they--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2712.412,2713.62"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes, we-- we--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2713.62,2715.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: That was very important, always.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2715.08,2716.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, we--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2716.82,2717.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2717.45,2717.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --tried to educate them and give them their own choice what they want to be.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2717.77,2722.842"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Hm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2722.842,2724.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But that's what they chose, and they are good at it, too.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2724.49,2727.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And-- and-- they're Canadians, and you are Canadian, now.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2727.83,2734.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2734.08,2734.56"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh. And you feel-- you feel good about that.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2734.56,2736.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes, very, very good. Canada was very good to me.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2736.78,2740.59"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2740.59,2741.522"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: It's a very good country to live in.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2741.522,2746.736"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Um-- these pictures, over here, I just wanted to ask you quickly--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2746.736,2752.64"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2752.64,2753.132"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: This was, um, taken at school, you said?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2753.132,2757.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yeah, this is a picture taken, if I'm not mistaken-- doesn't tell the year, but it was maybe '33, 1933 or 1934.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2757.9,2770.77"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2770.77,2771.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: This is Talmud Torah. And this is-- these are all the, uh, teachers and the rabbi. This one is the rabbi.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2771.35,2781.906"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2781.906,2783.274"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And this one was our \u003ci\u003erebbe.\u003c/i\u003e Like, he-- he taught several generations the aleph-bet, the A-B-C--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2783.274,2792.63"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2792.63,2794.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --and how to pray, and chumush and Tanakh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2794.05,2799.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2799.08,2799.562"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And this was our \u003ci\u003eshochet--\u003c/i\u003e\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2799.562,2802.478"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2802.478,2803.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --the one who did-- did the ritual slaughtering of the cattle.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2803.72,2807.82"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2807.82,2808.8"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And most of these people are the \u003ci\u003egabba'im,\u003c/i\u003e\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2808.8,2813.552"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2813.552,2813.9"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --in other words, the committee for the Talmud Torah.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2813.9,2818.11"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And all of these are the little-- are the boys there?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2818.11,2820.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: These are the students.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2820.16,2820.75"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And-- and how many of these survived, in this picture, do you know?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2820.75,2826.068"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Uh, very few, very few.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2826.068,2828.09"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Is this you, over here?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2828.09,2828.76"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: This is myself, here. This one survived and lives in Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2828.76,2834.628"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2834.628,2836.002"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Uh-- Also this one also survived that's a partisan-- live in Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2836.002,2842.08"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2842.08,2843.89"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And, uh, most of the rest perished.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2843.89,2847.214"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2847.214,2847.99"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yeah, this one, here, lives also in Israel. And he survived in-- in Russia. He-- he had a chance to escape to Russia, somehow--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2847.99,2860.71"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2860.71,2861.45"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --before the Germans attacked, our village was attacked.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2861.45,2865.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And-- and when was this picture taken of you, sorry? This one.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2865.29,2868.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: This was taken, uh, before the Germans attacked the Russians. This-- this was under the Russian government, in 1941.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2868.85,2882.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2882.52,2883.448"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I-- I was taking a photograph. I don't know the reason for-- for what reason. Maybe for a document. But this was taken in 1939.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2883.448,2894.235"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: And this one?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2894.235,2896.72"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: This one was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2896.72,2897.68"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Is that-- is that you?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2897.68,2898.7"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: That's myself in the second one. All the-- none of the other boys are alive, as far as I can-- I know.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2898.7,2907.22"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2907.22,2908.03"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And this was also taken in 1939, before the Germans attacked Poland.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2908.03,2915.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2915.46,2917.86"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: My friends from our town, Zhetel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2917.86,2922.73"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. And you said, earlier on, that a neighbor gave a neighbor gave these, um, pictures to you after the war.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2922.73,2931.715"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Right. He said he found it on-- on our yard.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2931.715,2935.57"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2935.57,2937.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But that's the only pictures I--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2937.04,2938.79"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: That you have. You don't have any of your parents.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2938.79,2940.49"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: No.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2940.49,2940.91"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Have you ever been to Israel?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2940.91,2945.61"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes. I was Israel twice.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2945.61,2947.46"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. When-- when was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2947.46,2949.04"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: In 1974--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2949.04,2950.66"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2950.66,2952.085"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And in 1979. And both times I met with these survivors of our town.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2952.085,2961.265"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2961.265,2961.63"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Not with all one-- one time I met several, and the second time I met several.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2961.63,2966.14"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2966.14,2967.4"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And it was like the biggest joy in the world to--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2967.4,2971.696"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: To be with them?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2971.696,2972.78"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to be with them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2972.78,2973.382"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2973.382,2974.286"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: They were happy to see me, and I was happy to see them.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2974.286,2976.83"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Had you kept in touch with them, all-- all these years? How did you know that they were there?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2976.83,2981.47"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Well, the, uh-- we have that book, \u003ci\u003ePinkes\u003c/i\u003e \u003ci\u003eZhetel,\u003c/i\u003e which was, uh, written in Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2981.47,2989.982"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2989.982,2990.474"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: And there-- there is addresses and names from all the, uh, Zheteler who live in Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2990.474,2998.41"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Uh-huh.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2998.41,2999.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: So I took-- I tore it out from the book, and I took it with me. 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How did you feel, going to Israel? Was it-- going to visit Israel-- Was it a good feeling, to be in Israel?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3022.54,3029.29"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Oh, yes I was very happy. 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Was there any time that you thought of going to live in Israel, before you came to Canada?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3042.932,3047.85"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes, I thought of that.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3047.85,3049.73"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: But you thought that this--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3049.73,3050.715"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: But-- but the first opportunity to-- to leave Germany and Europe was--\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3050.715,3057.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: To come to Canada.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3057.05,3057.52"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: --to come to Canada. 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Have you-- did you visit Yad Vashem?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3067.23,3070.79"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: Yes.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3070.79,3071.055"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Yeah?\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3071.055,3071.81"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was in Yad Vashem.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3071.81,3073.234"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3073.234,3074.16"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was in, uh, Yad Mordechai.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3074.16,3076.495"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3076.495,3078.53"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: I was anywhere I can find anything in the museum of the Holocaust I went to visit.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3078.53,3086.668"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: Mhm. Well, Mr. Pinsky, thank you so much for coming today.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3086.668,3091.05"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tSUBJECT: You're very welcome.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=3091.05,3091.35"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/transcript/22146/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\tINTERVIEWER: It's been-- it's been wonderful. 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Even though I had helped to carry rifles into the ghetto I did not have my own weapon.  To join the partisans you had to have ammunition because most partisans didn't have much to give.  But there was already a Jewish partisan corps in existence.  The leader {of Hashomer Hatzair in our town} was a town leader and a soldier from the Polish army so he knew something {His name was Hirsch Kaplinski} about the military.  We wanted to be part of the partisans, but we could only do other things to help until we got out own weapons.  It took me a long time, but finally I went to a peasant who had known my father.  When the Russians retreated, they left behind weapons which the peasants picked up.  That peasant gave me a rifle, and in the Fall of 1942 I joined the Jewish corp, which was under the command of the Russian partisan corp.\n\nAt first the Russians were very nice to us, and we helped each other.  But later on, by December 1942 the Germans pulled away from the battle front and began to search for the partisans in the forest.  So we dispersed, each one hiding wherever we could.  I managed to stick with my sister, sometimes getting help from villagers.  Typhus spread among the partisans, killing many of them.\n\nIn 1943 we organized again, but not in separate groups.  There was some anti-Semitism, but we lived with it.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=51.0,425.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1991","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 13","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=425.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1992","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were constantly active.  Germans tried to put up posts in the villages.  If we were informed, we would wait for them and chase them back.  But often they got in unnoticed, and their superior weapons defeated us.\n\nYes, it was hard and frightening, but though the Jewish partisans knew we would not survive, we intended to fight and get what revenge we could while we were alive.  That desire kept us going.  We got no satisfaction from the killing, but we had no choice.  The times were so bad that you had to defend yourself, you had to attack, to survive.\n\nIn 1942, some parachutists from Moscow gave us information and commands to derail trains.  They asked that we make sure the Germans could not transport what they took from the peasants to the front lines, to use against the Russians.  So our job was to destroy some of the echelons.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=425.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1993","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 14","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=661.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1994","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not far from the forest was the main line going towards the battlefront, and we tried to derail as many of those trains as possible.\n\nThere were women along with us.  Many of them did the cooking, cleaning and nursing, but there were also some who fought with us.  They were very good at it.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=661.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1995","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 15","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=725.0,1027.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1996","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the winter we used to dig foxholes in the ground big enough for bunkers for everyone.  We covered them with branches.  The best time was summer, because we could sleep outside.  But most of those nights were spent attacking.\n\nWe were liberated in July of 1944, when the Russians were pushing the Germans back.  Our worst day was probably July 8.  The Germans brought Vlasovs' army (General Andrei Vlasov commanded two divisions of Russians serving in German army-- Encyclo. Holo.).  Though the Germans were afraid of the partisans, Vlasov's group was not.  They put up a post in the forrest and looked for us every day.  A lot of partisans who survived this long were cut down by Vlasov, right before liberation.\n\nMany times I was close to being caught.  Once, I went with two other young boys to find out what was going on. We knew the Russian front was very close.  We came to a peasant's house, who was sympathetic to the partisans.  As we came close to knock on the window, about six tall figures in German uniform came from behind the barn.  They were carrying their rifles with the butts up.  Out of fear, we began to speak to them in Russian.  They answered in Russian and told us they wanted to give themselves over to the partisans.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=725.0,1027.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1997","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 16","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1027.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1998","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had no choice but to trust them.  Nearby they actually had their wives and children, food and buggies with their possessions.  They claimed that they had always been sympathetic and since the front was near, they wanted to save themselves.  We decided that one of them would go with us and one of us would remain with them because we could not accept them on our own authority.\n\nThey told us that if we did not return to them they would kill our friend.  So they eventually joined us, and we were liberated four days later.  We gave them over to the Russians.  Had we acted differently when we first encountered them, it would have been death, instantly.\n\nThe partisans had contact with Vlasov's army near the end because they thought we could help them when the Russians arrived.  But they were taken as prisoners of war like anybody else.\n\nMany of those liberated were mobilized right away to go to the battlefront.  The army recruiting office trusted only the Jewish partisans.  We were in charge of taking records to the train station twelve kilometers away and then by train another forty-five kilometers.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1027.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/1999","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 17","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1279.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2000","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did this kind of work until January, 1945, when a Polish delegation came to town and told us that everyone born under the Polish government could return to Poland.  I registered with my sister to return, but when the Russians found out they no longer trusted us and fired us from our jobs.\n\nWe had no knowledge of my brother at this time. My sister and I went to Lodz, and from Lodz we proceeded in early 1946 to Germany.  It was not until Lodz that stories of concentration camps were confirmed for us by survivors.  We were in Belsen  (DP camp in Germany in British zone) until 1947 as we waited to emigrate to Palestine, Canada, or the U.S.  I found my brother in Belsen and we signed up together for Canada.  Someone came to us and told us they had seen another Pinsky on the American side, leading a kibbutz (we had kibbutzim even in the camps).  The physical description matched, so my sister went and found him, and returned with him to Belsen.\nMy sister married in Belsen, so just my brother and I decided on Canada, which offered the first opportunity for emigration.  We wanted to leave the country where our parents vanished.\n\nWe arrived in Canada on January 17, 1948, by cattle boat after eleven days on the ocean.  I was sick for at least eight of those days because I was very weak from the war.  I was upset to be separated from my sister, but she and her husband came a few months later.  We arrived in Montreal and chose to stay there because we wanted to start living.  I applied to Jewish Teacher's Seminary, and was given a test in Hebrew and Jewish so that I placed in the second level.  I was assigned to a school in Winnipeg.  My brother worked as a tailor.\n\nPeople were wonderful to us in Canada.  I spoke no English, but people were very helpful, especially the Jewish community.  I really enjoyed the chance to study again, and I made a lot of friends.\nI met my wife in Winnipeg and we married in 1951.  We stayed twenty years in Winnipeg, though I only taught there for three.  I have three children: my daughter is a lawyer in Vancouver, so is my son, and my other son is studying law at Edmonton University.  I worked in real estate with my brother and we did very well.\n\nAll three of my children were interested in my experiences from the war, so I told them stories all the time.  They were always asking questions.  We talked openly, but somehow I could not talk with strangers about these things.  Today I am fine, because I feel it is important to share my experiences.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=1279.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2001","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 18","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2042.0,2497.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2002","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My experiences helped me teach my children to be self-sufficient and to stand up for their own rights. I taught them to be proud of being Jewish and to defend the occurrence of the Holocaust against those who claim it did not happen.\n\nWe moved in 1970 when I bought a hotel, but it burned down so we moved to Vancouver in 1977.  My brother is still in Winnipeg, but my sister is in Vancouver.  Unfortunately she is divorced, but our family is very close.  She talks to my children about the Holocaust when they ask, but it is difficult.\n\nAfter seeing what happened when they liquidated the ghetto in 1942, I doubted and abandoned my orthodoxy.  I protested against God for not taking vengeance upon the murderers.  I turned against religion and have remained that way.  My children have had a Jewish education, and I am a good Jew who attends synagogue, but deep in my heart I still have that protest.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2042.0,2497.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2003","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 19","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2497.0,2758.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2004","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My children attend synagogue and know their Hebrew, they can make their own way.  My problem remains with prayer.  The religious Jews were murdered first, few escaped to the forest.  I still protest.\n\nAs a young man I had no plans for myself after the war because it seemed 99% certain that I would die.  Very, very few of us survived.  Before the war, I was striving to become a rabbi.  That's why my father sent me to yeshiva.  Obviously that changed after the pogroms.\n\nMy children have chosen law on their own, but we did encourage their educations.\n\nWe are all Canadians, and are proud of it.  Canada has been very good to us.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2497.0,2758.0"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2005","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Segment 20","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2758.0,3402.455"},{"id":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978/index/32127/annotation/2006","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(Witness shows pictures from childhood before the war.)  Of the boys shown here from my school, only about four survived.  A neighbor found these pictures in our yard and sent them to us.  They are all I have, and there are no pictures of my parents.\n\nI went to Israel twice, in 1974 and 1979, when I met with survivors from our town.  It was the biggest joy in the world to see them.  I found them through a book that listed all the survivors from Zhetl.  I felt like kissing the ground when I arrived in Israel.  I thought of living there, but leaving Germany was more important than the destination.  I went to visit everything I could, all the museums about the Holocaust.\nThank you.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://fortunoff.aviaryplatform.com/collections/5/collection_resources/3091/file/58978#t=2758.0,3402.455"}]}]}]}